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#2626 by barfboy
2021-09-11 at 05:13
< report >Shirogane Otome
I've never seen a visual novel with so much bathing ever. Every other scene takes place in a shower or bath. Not like an Onsen but a regular indoor dormitory bath. It has WAY more bathing than even Zengaku! ~Zenra Toukou Shuukan Tokubetsu Taisaku Gasshuku~ or Chicchakunai Mon! ~School Bus de Omukae Chu Chu♥~ which have a significant amount of bathing. The closest example to how much bathing there is is Onegai Twins if anybody's seen that.

I think we should make a 'Bathing' tag but hell if I know where to put it. A simple description
"A significant portion of this visual novel takes place while characters are bathing" seems good enough but since it's an activity and not a location tag I can't for the life of me think of where it would go.
#2627 by historyeraser
2021-09-12 at 01:18
< report >Different Love Interest(s) Per Protagonist has some shit grammar in the description.

"In a game with multiple protagonists, a different heroine or heroines are available as potential romantic partners for each protagonist. The protagonists have no overlapping love interests." should be "In a game with multiple protagonists, different heroes or heroines are available as potential romantic partners for each protagonist. The protagonists have no overlapping love interests."
#2628 by naiohoras
2021-09-17 at 13:52
< report >Only Blood-related Heroines should be a child tag of All Heroines are Protagonist's Relative(s).
also, can mods consider this as well? t17011.4 linkLast modified on 2021-09-17 at 13:54
#2629 by beliar
2021-09-17 at 17:01
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I think we should make a 'Bathing' tag but hell if I know where to put it.
I really don't think the activity is important enough to justify a tag, even if there are a few games, where such activity is more commonplace than usual.

Different Love Interest(s) Per Protagonist has some shit grammar in the description.
There was nothing wrong with the grammar, but it was an oversight that the description only called out female love interests. Fixed.

also, can mods consider this as well? t17011.4 link
Does anyone have any objection to this? It would affect nine tags if implemented.
#2630 by naiohoras
2021-09-19 at 10:34
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Does anyone have any objection to this? It would affect nine tags if implemented.
seems like there's non.
#2631 by historyeraser
2021-09-20 at 14:52
< report >Body of Water should have "nautical fiction" as an alias or new name.
#2632 by ezezin
2021-09-22 at 08:39
< report >Fictional Island Near Future Japan doesn't have description and should be a child tag of Near Future and Earth instead of Future and Future Earth.Last modified on 2021-09-22 at 08:50
#2633 by poudink
2021-09-22 at 18:59
< report >The tags Heroine With Kansai Accent, Sex With Monsters, Consensual Sex With Monsters, Hero With Kansai Accent, Sex With Monsters Only and the traits Rubber Band With Beads, Petting With Object, Petting With Object and Sex With Insects all incorrectly capitalize the w in with.
#2634 by mutsuki
2021-09-22 at 19:27
< report >do you think that a tag that covers games which have ovulation and fertilisation overlays/cut-ins (such as those in miel games and haha ranman) would be unique enough to be separate from internal exhibition of sex? i'd like to search by this tag if it existed.Last modified on 2021-09-22 at 19:29
#2635 by historyeraser
2021-09-27 at 05:27
< report >Amare Game

uhhhhhh
#2636 by ezezin
2021-09-27 at 09:29
< report >Well, if you think about it, that tag proposal was prone to appear sooner or later.
I should add, that's quite a controversial tag in some websites, specially because it doesn't have a clear universal definition right now.
I would say wait some time before accepting it, maybe 4 or 6 months, since it's a new term and people are still experimenting with it.
#2637 by historyeraser
2021-09-27 at 09:34
< report >Yeah it's a loaded nonsense buzzword. It's like the "grunge" of VN's. A single term being used to describes tons of things with little or nothing in common with eachother.
#2638 by eacil
2021-09-27 at 12:56
< report >I doubt this term will ever get any traction. It's a meaningless term. "Love games". Just wow, You feel the strong identity. How do you even get that this is related to otoge? I didn't see something this bad brand-wise since a looong time.

It is also incredibly vague as to what it is and what purpose it fills. EVN are overall already pretty progressive-friendly. Are they trying to exclude otoge made by TERF or something (is it even a thing?)? Do you pin the badge on your own game yourself, do you have to ask or do you pin the badge on pretty much everything that fills the criteria, even Japanese otoge?

As I see it now, I see no reason to accept that tag. You can already find that type of games with current tags/traits in a more efficient manner than this vague category. If this is subject to debate, adding a tag such as Ethnically Diverse Casting would still be more meaningful and objective.
However, I could see it being accepted later if it's a badge that is given officially, meaning this would be a list of games like the various Jam tags. Given that there would be a decent amount of games tagged as such, of course.
#2639 by beliar
2021-09-27 at 16:28
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Fictional Island Near Future Japan doesn't have description and should be a child tag of Near Future and Earth instead of Future and Future Earth.

You misunderstood what the tag means. It doesn't say that the story is set on an island in a near future Japan - it says the story is set on an island, which is near futuristic Japan. Yes, the title can be confusing when there is no description, however the first meaning would not be grammatically correct with the title.

with
Actually, the capitalization of "with" is contentious, and different grammar guides choose either capitalize it or not in a title. Just took a look, and our "with" is also very inconsistent in Vn names too. There are a lot of capitalized and uncapitalized. I do agree with the school that says "with" shouldn't be capitalized, though.

ovulation
Like the internal exhibition that shows the egg being fertilized? That sounds like incredibly specific to call it a tag...

Amare
Double "uhhh". What everyone has already said. No reason to approve it.
#2640 by mutsuki
2021-09-27 at 17:07
< report >#2639, it's specific but you find it occasionally in haramase type games and i'd like to find them when there are games doing it.
#2641 by savagetiger
2021-09-27 at 21:52
< report >Amare Game
Even though the term is new a lot of the current western 'otome' games in the database retroactivly apply.
It's a good blanket term for excluding things rather than having to exclude 4-5 other tags.
#2642 by eacil
2021-09-27 at 23:47
< report >For LGTBQ games, it makes more sense to include characters with the sexual orientation/gender you are interested in.
For POC, you exclude Pale.
I agree it is not that simple, though, and might benefit from new tags that tag games focusing on what amare games are, notably umbrella tags and/or presence tags.
Tagmods are more fitting to answer this question as I don't have a good view of the whole tree.Last modified on 2021-09-28 at 01:39
#2643 by historyeraser
2021-09-28 at 08:58
< report >I proposed a Ethnically Diverse Cast tag, just so we have another reason to keep out Amare.Last modified on 2021-09-28 at 09:55
#2644 by ezezin
2021-09-28 at 12:49
< report >Wouldn't that tag be better placed in Misc. Character Tags instead of Character Skin Colors? Since it includes nationality in its description, it is not necessary for characters to have different skin colors.Last modified on 2021-09-28 at 12:49
#2645 by gvbn
2021-09-28 at 20:15
< report >Varied Title Screens

The current description ties alternative title screens to progress, however there are VNs where it's just a random chance. For example, in Bishoujo Mangekyou -Norowareshi Densetsu no Shoujo- you can get an alternative screen even with a completely new save file.
#2646 by ezezin
2021-10-03 at 02:48
< report >I think that Gang could be a parent tag for Gangster Hero, Gangster Heroine and Gangster Protagonist.
#2647 by mrkew
2021-10-03 at 03:59
< report >No. Just because a character in the VN is a gangster does not mean gang plays a vital role in the story.
#2648 by naiohoras
2021-10-05 at 13:58
< report >Dojikko Heroine should be renamed to Clumsy Heroine, and use Clumsy's desc as well.
Heroine with Baby Complex (and its trait counterpart Baby Complex) desc should be changed so it targets other characters in the game as well, rather than exclusive to the protagonist.Last modified on 2021-10-05 at 14:00
#2649 by barfboy
2021-10-05 at 15:16
< report >Yeah that's been a tricky one to apply because of that, especially since there are many protagonists with baby complexes which should be added, such as Honoo no Haramase Tenkousei and Oyako Ai ~Ikenai Kozukuri 2~ or a non protagonist trying to get a heroine pregnant like Yamada Tagosaku
#2650 by butterflygrrl
2021-10-07 at 22:06
< report >Slime Girl Heroine does not seem to be a thing yet as a tag, though it does exist as a trait: Slime

There are tags for Consensual Sex Involving Slime Monsters and Slime Monster Rape but not one for a romantic relationship with a slime girl. I don't know if it's common enough to be necessary, I just noticed the lack when I was adding Slippery Kiss