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#1851 by [deleted]
2019-11-07 at 16:25
Does Based on a Manga still apply when the VN is an adaption of the anime adaption of the manga?
#1852 by warfoki
2019-11-07 at 17:23
I think it's simpler if I just go and make Based on Anime tag. So I just did: Based on an Anime
#1853 by fuukanou
2019-11-11 at 22:43
I've got an idea of a tag for 'prematurely-ending sex scenes' where due to some interruption (e.g. participants chicken out, participants change their minds, someone else interrupts in the act) the scene is prematurely ended (e.g. before climax). The key point of the tag is that it's set up as all the other scenes are (e.g. with a CG if H-scenes usually have CGs in that game), except they end unnaturally faster than the other scenes.Last modified on 2019-11-11 at 22:45
#1854 by kiru
2019-11-12 at 09:12
^What use does that tag have? Would anyone really search for it? Would it be really useful as a tag to ignore, seeing how this is not only rarely the case but also usually only once among many other scenes? Would it tell anything interesting to someone browsing tags, keeping in mind that this could be considered a spoiler tag?

You can make tags for a lot of things. But tags do need to have a purpose. People need to have reasons to desire a tag or want to ignore it. It needs to provide information that can matter. In this case I'm not sure it does, but maybe you have an idea about that, given you suggest it? We already have too many tags, so it'd be not very useful to add more if they don't provided much of anything to anyone and only add to the clutter.
#1855 by fuukanou
2019-11-23 at 09:29
OK I've got a better tag idea:
First & Third-Person Narrative - for use when the game has both first and third person narrative sections. The importance of this is that (at least personally I find) that third person in Japanese is harder to read than first person. As a result, I want to tag a work as third-person. However, this game also has a lot of it (>70%) of it in first person, which would sway the choice of whether to read it.
#1856 by saeryen
2019-11-26 at 03:12
link

I messed this one up. The alias and description are in each other’s places.
#1857 by zakashi
2019-12-02 at 11:35
These types of tags are redundant, i have a feeling that people create them because they don't know that we have a visual novel filter tool, you just go to this page to use it, click in `visual novel filters`, then in `tags`, and include the tags you`re looking for.
For example for Lesbian Protagonist you include Female Protagonist and Homosexual Protagonist, the same reasoning goes for Homosexual Male Protagonist.
#1858 by rampaa
2019-12-02 at 11:46
#1857: Please tell me, without those tags, how could you avoid homosexual male protagonists WITHOUT excluding lesbian protagonists as well?

(The answer is current filters are not powerful enough to do that so we need those tags.)
#1859 by zakashi
2019-12-02 at 11:53
@1851 I woudn`t use it in this way, the common in adaptations is to use the original material as the source (just for the record i don`t know any adaptation that didn`t use the original material), when they adapt it is possible to make changes in the original for several reasons:

The director of the project wants to be original and leaves his own marks on his work, a clear example of this is aku no hana.

The original material isn't keeping up with the adaptation, then they make a lot of filler episodes (naruto), or even create a new original timeline (Fullmetal Alchemist).

Sometimes they want to improve the original, like fixing plotholes in the original story (manga adaptation of Darling in the Franxx), or giving a different atmosphere to the setting, slightly changing the characters etc (for example in the manga adaptation of arifureta, they give a darker atmosphere for the characters, they appear to be more adult compared to the LN, they also skip a lot of events that happen in the original).
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As you can see, it is not rare for an adaptation to be different from the original in key points, and which you choose to adapt will give you a different material to adapt (FMA being a clear example, you get totally different results depending on which one you choose to adapt between the manga and the first anime).Last modified on 2019-12-02 at 11:58
#1860 by zakashi
2019-12-02 at 12:00
@1858 You use Male Protagonist together with Homosexual ProtagonistLast modified on 2019-12-02 at 12:01
#1861 by rampaa
2019-12-02 at 12:05
#1860: You don't seem to understand how exclusion works. If I were to exclude Male Protagonist and Homosexual Protagonist, I would have excluded all VNs with male protagonists and/or lesbian protagonists which is totally not what I am trying to do.Last modified on 2019-12-02 at 12:05
#1862 by zakashi
2019-12-02 at 12:15
Sorry but i'm not understanding your point, i'm not talking about excluding anything, don't you want to play a game with an homosexual male? Use the tags that we already have, if you want to see an homosexual female, use 'Female Protagonist' together with 'Homosexual Protagonist', in other words there is no difference between tagging a game with Lesbian Protagonist and using the combo 'Female Protagonist/Homosexual Protagonist', where is the difficulty to understand this?Last modified on 2019-12-02 at 12:21
#1863 by rampaa
2019-12-02 at 12:24
If we did not have Homosexual Male Protagonist, I would not be able to exclude homosexual male protagonists without either excluding all male protagonists or lesbian protagonists. It is impossible with the current filters. In order to do it, I would need to perform logical AND operation for exclusion, which cannot be done at this time in moment.

If you still don't get it, it's fine. People who need to understand this stuff (t3617.1829) understand it and that is all that matters.Last modified on 2019-12-02 at 12:26
#1864 by skorpiondeath
2019-12-02 at 12:35
@saeryen: tag fixed
#1865 by zakashi
2019-12-02 at 12:53
#1863 okay, you're trying to search for lesbian protagonists and heterosexual male protagonists at the same time? I have a solution, open two tabs in your browser, in one of them you include 'male protagonist' and exclude 'homosexual protagonist', in the other you include 'homosexual protagonist' together with 'female protagonist' :D

Okay that was a joke, i didn't think someone would search for VNs that way, and nice treatment you have there for those who want to help.
#1866 by rampaa
2019-12-02 at 12:59
#1865 I am sincerely sorry if I came across as rude, that was not my intention.Last modified on 2019-12-02 at 12:59
#1867 by zakashi
2019-12-02 at 13:02
it's fine my friend.
#1868 by saeryen
2019-12-02 at 14:50
@skorpiondeath Thanks
#1869 by rampaa
2019-12-05 at 15:07
Urban Fantasy should be a child tag of Contemporary Fantasy. And Contemporary Fantasy should be a child tag of Low Fantasy (probably).

EDIT: Scratch that. Even though Urban Fantasy is considered a subgenre of Contemporary Fantasy, it seems like a contemporary setting is not required for urban fantasy. How can something can be a subgenre of something else without fully implying it is beyond me but yeah, as is, it should not be made into a child tag.Last modified on 2019-12-05 at 15:32
#1870 by rampaa
2019-12-09 at 11:15
Non-sexual Child Abuse probably shouldn't be not-searchable and not-taggable.
#1871 by warfoki
2019-12-09 at 13:31
That it shouldn't be. Fixed now.

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