Tag: Holmes Adaptation

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#1 by takata
2013-04-06 at 00:16
< report >What sort of VNs should this tag be used on?
I'm quite sure most of the VNs you've used this tag on are not adaptations of existing stories starring Sherlock Holmes, especially the Milky Holmes VNs.
At most, the Milky Holmes VNs have a few characters named after characters from stories starring Sherlock Holmes (mostly Sherlock Shellingford) (I'm not sure if they share more in common, I haven't read the VNs).

I think this tag needs a thorough re-wording so that it's clear exactly where it should be used. O.o
#2 by kukipandora
2013-04-06 at 03:20
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#3 by takata
2013-04-07 at 03:09
< report >Hm.... I was thinking that Sherlock Shellingford and Sherlock Holmes had nothing in common except for both having "Sherlock" in their names and both being detectives.
Hence, I wouldn't say that Shellingford was "based on" Holmes; she was just named after him.


Just to be sure, what sort of VNs do you want to have this tag?
1. VNs that are adaptations of the stories starring Sherlock Holmes ?
2. VNs that are loosly based on the stories starring Sherlock Holmes ?
3. VNs that contain characters based on Sherlock Holmes, John Watson, etc. ?
4. VNs that contain characters named after Sherlock Holmes, John Watson, etc. ?

I was guessing you wanted to include VNs that met any of criteria 1, 2, 3 or 4. Correct me if I'm wrong.
#4 by ganchan
2013-04-07 at 08:49
< report >If I remember correctly, the anime said, that she was descendant of Holmes. But anyways, it wouldn't count as Holmes adaptation, because all her friends were descendants of famous detectives.
#5 by kukipandora
2013-04-08 at 17:05
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#6 by ganchan
2013-04-08 at 21:46
< report >But I think this two tags are very different. Because g963 doesn't mean an adaptation of Carrol's work(Altough some are).

It means, that the vn, has a setting similar of his works. Is like saying that g664 is based on the Battle Royale book. Just that people hasn't come with a clear name to call this setting (as in not as simple and clear as 'battle royale'). And even if they come with one (I'm wouldn't be surprised if there's one), people will just call it Alice's setting, because is easier.

If you want to say, that they use a Holmes' setting, that would be the same as saying a detective setting, and using anything related to Holmes is more like a tribute than anything else.
#7 by kukipandora
2013-04-09 at 03:27
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#8 by ganchan
2013-04-09 at 09:22
< report >That's not true, "late Victorian/Edwardian London" setting, won't refer just to Holmes. It can be just a love story in that place.

And as I said, if you want VNs that are adaptations or based on Sherlock Holmes, the best is to use a detective tag, than to use a tag just for Holmes. Sure, with detective tags, you won't find Holmes, so easily. But I think that the tag, you want is so concrete that is not worth to put it.
#9 by kukipandora
2013-04-09 at 16:19
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#10 by takata
2013-04-15 at 05:43
< report >Sorry it took a while to reply. >.<

How about we write the tag description similarly to g1193 or g1315?
For these tags, the "universe" the story happens in seems to be defined by the presence of certain known characters (like Hakurei Reimu, Hatsune Miku, or in this case, Sherlock Holmes).

"These games feature characters from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's series of stories starring Sherlock Holmes. These characters may include, but are not limited to Sherlock Holmes, John Watson, Moriarty, Mrs. Hudson and Irene Adler.

The story likely revolves around mysteries and detective work."


This description will exclude VNs like Milky Holmes, since Sherlock Shellingford isn't even remotely based on Sherlock Holmes. It would not exclude VNs starring Sherlock Holmes in, say, a modern or futuristic setting.Last modified on 2013-04-15 at 05:44
#11 by kukipandora
2013-04-15 at 16:16
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