Tagging characters with specific breast sizes

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#1 by overmage
2013-04-13 at 17:30
< report >Hey. just wanted to note that since the specific tags state that specific information from the makers is needed, it would be helpful if you included links to the source in the edit summary when adding those traits in other than just a simple 'traits'. Since anyone else can just change the sizes as there is nothing to verify your edit is the 'right' size, you would have to edit it back with the reasoning anyway to avoid an edit war.

If that's inconvenient, for example because it's only available via in-game data, then a simple "I personally verified this by playing the game and seeing the data inside" would do just as well.

Using more specific edit summaries definitely improves the database. Hope you consider it. Thank you for reading!Last modified on 2013-04-13 at 17:34
#2 by binfujiwara
2013-04-13 at 21:02
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Tagging characters with specific breast sizes
Hey. just wanted to note that since the specific tags state that specific information from the makers is needed, it would be helpful if you included links to the source in the edit summary when adding those traits in other than just a simple 'traits'. Since anyone else can just change the sizes as there is nothing to verify your edit is the 'right' size, you would have to edit it back with the reasoning anyway to avoid an edit war.

Ok, got it. As I am now editing games that have characters with specific breast sizes, I promise I will include the source link to the breast size from now on.

Using more specific edit summaries definitely improves the database.

Let me get it straight: Now I'll have to write a detailed excuse for each minor edit? Sigh... Why didn't you tell me sooner if it was that important?
I have to say that most of my edits are based on the official site, Getchu and g.e.hentai. It will be almost impossible to argue with these resources. Are you sure I should add a link to these sites each and every time?

I don't play most of the games I add characters to. I just like to add info on characters and games that look nice/or I feel like adding info about them.

to avoid an edit war

I like winning edit wars using hard facts. C:< (Even though I know that these wars are retarded most of the time... :| )Last modified on 2013-04-13 at 21:07
#3 by overmage
2013-04-14 at 08:55
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Are you sure I should add a link to these sites each and every time?

Pretty much. :x if anything, that is the entire point of the edit summary!

And edit wars are bad >:(

Let me get it straight: Now I'll have to write a detailed excuse for each minor edit?

Nah, that's not what I meant! only for specific tags where it was specifically stated that they could only be used with developer data. I think those like the breast tags are the only tags thus far that are like that, really.

But I like the work you do editing so much so thanks for that :DLast modified on 2013-04-14 at 08:57
#4 by takata
2013-04-15 at 05:49
< report >If you find the edit summary tedious (since you make a staggering number of edits to vndb), I think a link to your information source would be enough. Other users can probably figure out the rest.

I don't play most of the games I add characters to. I just like to add info on characters and games that look nice/or I feel like adding info about them.
...and I thought you got a lot of your information from reading VNs. o.oLast modified on 2013-04-15 at 05:50
#5 by binfujiwara
2013-04-15 at 21:37
< report >@overmage:

Nah, that's not what I meant! only for specific tags where it was specifically stated that they could only be used with developer data. I think those like the breast tags are the only tags thus far that are like that, really.

Oh, I thought you meant it that way. I just wanted to make sure.

But I like the work you do editing so much so thanks for that :D

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If you find the edit summary tedious (since you make a staggering number of edits to vndb), I think a link to your information source would be enough. Other users can probably figure out the rest.

Great idea, I'll try it out when I edit multiple tags. Thank you!

...and I thought you got a lot of your information from reading VNs. o.o

I do play trials and very short doujins even in JP, though. This way and by reading A LOT about VN's on vn related sites in different languages, I did learn "quite a few" things about them, y'know.
But it's not like I don't like playing VN's. I just don't play dem logn gamez.... I hAte that a game can have 56 or 213 (!) possible endings... :\ If I do play a long VN, I prefer either kinetic novels or ones with few choices. And they should be translated to a language I can read without Google translate.Last modified on 2013-04-15 at 21:48
#6 by overmage
2013-04-19 at 00:17
< report >oh just a question

Is c11889 really AA cup? O_O
80-x-x... unless she has like man-shoulders... even the picture doesn't seem like it

not doubting you, just lemme know the source... total suspension of disbelief if the makers really claim it's AA @@Last modified on 2013-04-19 at 00:19
#7 by binfujiwara
2013-04-19 at 08:27
< report >I know, I know... When she has clothes on, she doesn't look like AA cup at all. But when she's naked, (link NSFW) she is pretty much a pettanko. (Is it a pushup? Or maybe she stuffs? O.O)

Besides, her three-size isn't accurate here. It's 79.5 really. XD (link) Though she may have like A cup, not AA cup. (link NSFW) But I can't tag her A cup or anything bigger, unless the developers say what is her real breast size. Because this VN doesn't have any accurate info on breast cups, I just saw that she almost has no boobs, and tagged her as AA cup = flat-chested.Last modified on 2013-04-19 at 08:38
#8 by takata
2013-04-20 at 01:28
< report >Hm... I would have guessed she was slightly bigger than AA (hence, no bust size trait), but I'm no expert at judging bust size so just leave it as is.

Unless the developers are generating properly scaled 3D models of characters, even they can't measure the bust size with complete accuracy. o.oLast modified on 2013-04-20 at 01:29
#9 by binfujiwara
2013-04-20 at 12:58
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Unless the developers are generating properly scaled 3D models of characters, even they can't measure the bust size with complete accuracy. o.o

You can say that again, takata.Last modified on 2013-04-20 at 12:59
#10 by overmage
2013-05-01 at 13:33
< report >Not with complete accuracy, no. But actual AA size is very, very small. It means less than one inch between breast and torso circumference. It's generally very easy to tell when someone isn't AA.

In short, although you can't pin the exact size, you can estimate if somebody is not 'absolute nothing'. (consider that the 1 inch is spread around the *entire* torso)

Source: female friend's education on how bust sizes actually work, and the meanings of those numbers (:p) Also, knowing female friends' bust sizes IRL, and comparing to my visual impression.

And just to give an indicator (although of course this isn't really related) - the picture with clothes on in real life would be closer to a B - very very far away from AA. In this case, it's no longer a question of accuracy as much as it is outright discrepancy - you don't need a ruler to know it's way off. Stupid Japanese artists...Last modified on 2013-05-01 at 13:41
#11 by binfujiwara
2013-05-04 at 11:47
< report >Hmm, I guess you're right. I'll change it, then.

P.S.: Was this an edit war? XD I think it wasn't really, because we didn't argue or fight.Last modified on 2013-05-04 at 11:48

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