| #1 by jackuars 2013-04-21 at 05:09 | < report >Since it's not possible to pay for all VN's that we come across, certain VN's have great Anime adaptations. Which among them has the best VN <->Anime adaptations (notice the double sided arrows), that stays true to quality? I'm planning to watch Clannad, since I am not able to afford the VN.Last modified on 2013-04-22 at 02:37 |
| #2 by herki 2013-04-21 at 05:27 | < report >majikoi |
| #3 by silence 2013-04-21 at 05:45 | < report >@herki: this topic is about the "Best" adaptation, not the "Worst" :) |
| #4 by mazyrian 2013-04-21 at 07:04 | < report >School Days / Shuffle! |
| #5 by eyeless 2013-04-21 at 07:34 | < report >Bondage Game! |
| #6 by PabloC 2013-04-21 at 10:13 | < report > certain VN's have great Anime adaptations I can only think of Kanon (2006). I didn't see any other VN adaptations that would be even comparable with the original. Not to even mention:Also you shouldn't feel like you missed something while you watch the anime. Clannad is a very good anime, but I seriously doubt it is anywhere near the VN. Higurashi is most likely the same. School Days if fun to watch, but it's basically a small slice of the VN. And since the original is fully animated anyway, they really can't be compared at all. And Shuffle anime is some ecchi harem shit, I only managed to watch 2-3 episodes and all those random panty-shots and general stupidity made me quit. VN however was quite enjoyable (for a simple moege that is). As for trolling: - One: Kagayaku Kisetsu e - True Stories and Suika (aka. Wet Summer Days) - because 3 episode hentai animes certainly stay true to the ~20-30h, story-oriented, low sexual content VNs. XDLast modified on 2013-04-21 at 10:14 |
| #7 by gabezhul 2013-04-21 at 10:21 | < report >Higurasi is pretty good on its own, but it pales in comparison to the VN. As for "good" adaptations... Any hentai anime based on a nukige, really. You get the benefit of animation while losing nothing (since nukiges generally don't have any real plot to butcher anyway). It's win-win. :P |
| #8 by warfoki 2013-04-21 at 10:37 | < report >^Depending on the budget of the anime-makers. Lilith adaptations tend to be good, but on the other hand the adaptation of v6282 foe example is just atrociously bad in every regard.Last modified on 2013-04-21 at 10:37 |
| #9 by ellixer2407 2013-04-21 at 10:58 | < report >Steins;Gate, probably because there's only one route that really matters. The VN was way more tense though.Last modified on 2013-04-21 at 10:59 |
| #10 by mazyrian 2013-04-21 at 11:00 | < report > School Days if fun to watch, but it's basically a small slice of the VN. And since the original is fully animated anyway, they really can't be compared at all. Because the game is the pinnacle of animation. Also, it may take only some bits of the game, but it takes the most interesting ones and ignores all the general repetition and not-really-going-anywhere parts.And Shuffle anime is some ecchi harem shit, I only managed to watch 2-3 episodes and all those random panty-shots and general stupidity made me quit. VN however was quite enjoyable (for a simple moege that is). The anime may have more panty shots than the game, but it's not really any more stupid. You may prefer to compare the full anime with the full game, in any case.Higurasi is pretty good on its own, but it pales in comparison to the VN. Many people that didn't play the game say that Shingetsutan Tsukihime is a quite decent anime.Last modified on 2013-04-21 at 11:01 |
| #11 by ultimecea 2013-04-21 at 11:37 | < report >only 1 = Amagami though Kimikiss come close as one of good VN adaptation... but the rest of VN adaptation is shit.. they always choose the worst route >>> |
| #12 by space-ranger 2013-04-21 at 11:42 | < report >v369 comes to mind as a good VN and a good anime. However the anime takes some of the heroines and writes a brand new storyline and the protag isn't included at all. Technically speaking this would make it a horrible adaption even though they are both great. v3 follows the VN storyline rather well and both are worth the time. However the linear plot means they are pretty much each other's duplicate. If you go through one, you will not really gain much more from the other one. The only stuff you miss from the VN are covered in the OVAs and is more background story to characters rather than actual storyline. Maybe this makes it perfect for what you asked for. Generally speaking it's hard to find a story, which works well as both an anime and a VN. I thought it was an issue with linear vs non-linear plots until I realized the issue is the same with manga <-> anime. Saw one which turned out to be just random H scenes and any sign of the storyline had vanished. I wonder about one thing though. Basically you said "I want to watch anime because I skip VNs due to...". If you want animes, then go to some anime board. Theoretically you wouldn't care if a VN exists if you plan not to try it anyway. |
| #13 by ultimecea 2013-04-21 at 12:10 | < report >@12...koihime works better without the mc.. i mean..imagine those YURI potent they were showing in the anime >.> and rather than he not able to afford the VN.. doesnt that apply to the animes as well?? since..i remember my original boxsets cost a lot.. |
| #14 by haruhi-ism 2013-04-21 at 12:54 | < report >v238 has a better anime than the original game. The main problems with the vn (or at least the main complaints I heard) were probably the bad combat system and wacky unavoidable random sex scenes. The anime obviously doesn't have either. |
| #15 by space-ranger 2013-04-21 at 13:08 | < report > @12...koihime works better without the mc.. I agree the anime is better but it's not due to the yuri potent, though I guess that would make it great if you are into that.i mean..imagine those YURI potent they were showing in the anime >.> and rather than he not able to afford the VN.. I noticed that as well. However I decided to ignore it. Last time I said something about something like that (not on VNDB) it turned into a rude and fierce fight about the right to buy pirated anime from professional bootleggers and how it was wrong not to do so. The arguments were beyond ridicules.doesnt that apply to the animes as well?? |
| #16 by jakerams 2013-04-21 at 13:10 | < report >Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate had a great anime adaption much better than the visual novel. Mashiro Iro Symphony the same way. Kanon VN and anime both felt the same way. |
| #17 by PabloC 2013-04-21 at 13:21 | < report > Also, it may take only some bits of the game, but it takes the most interesting ones No. SD is all about the fun bad endings. VN has many. Anime has only one. That alone makes it significantly inferior. Also, your choices can make the protag a bit less of a jerk, but in the anime you are stuck with a douche that's only bearable when he's dead.As for Shuffle, if you will tell me that it's NOT the typical ecchi harem shit where the protag can't decide which girl he should choose until the last episode, and ends up picking the most uninteresting heroine with big boobs, then I'll consider giving it a try. Possibly. Maybe. Not likely... :P The VN, despite the setting and the heroines, was surprisingly low on harem stuff, that's why it was bearable. Many people that didn't play the game say that ###### ###### is a quite decent anime. Strange, my computer doesn't display the name of that anime you mentioned. Are you sure that it even exists? :P@OP I'm planning to watch Clannad, since I am not able to afford the VN. I just noticed that. Are you SURE that you can't afford it? Memorial edition costs less than 5000 yen on Amazon (3785 = ~40$ if you don't mind used copy) and there are other editions that are even cheaper. With additional shipping costs, forwarding and stuff it still shouldn't be more than 70$ (and I'm counting shipping via EMS to Europe). How much would DVDs with two seasons of the anime cost? |
| #18 by mazyrian 2013-04-21 at 13:56 | < report > No. SD is all about the fun bad endings. VN has many. Anime has only one. That alone makes it significantly inferior. Also, your choices can make the protag a bit less of a jerk, but in the anime you are stuck with a douche that's only bearable when he's dead. Only the bad endings are only fun in a lol sense, coming out of absolutely nowhere. The anime has a buildup to the ending that's mostly absent in the game. Also, in the VN the bad ends are 3 out of 21. In the anime is 1 out of 1. You may have a point with the MC, but I'd rather have the jerk one than the incredible boring one. As for Shuffle, if you will tell me that it's NOT the typical ecchi harem shit where the protag can't decide which girl he should choose until the last episode, and ends up picking the most uninteresting heroine with big boobs, then I'll consider giving it a try. Possibly. Maybe. Not likely... :P OK, I'll tell you then that's not the typical ecchi harem shit where the protag can't decide which girl he should choose until the last episode, and ends up picking the most uninteresting heroine with big boobs. The harem shit is basically over after about the middle, and Kaede's personality change is more interesting than anything that's in the game.The VN, despite the setting and the heroines, was surprisingly low on harem stuff, that's why it was bearable. If you dislike harems you won't like the first part, true. Personally I disliked how rushed and low in substance the VN was, and the anime is an improvement in those points. |
| #19 by mastag 2013-04-21 at 15:47 | < report > Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate had a great anime adaption much better than the visual novel. Haven't read the VN but the anime was awesome. It didn't have the best plot or whatever, but somehow I really, really enjoyed it. Oh and the Majikoi Anime was maybe decent but if you compare the VN and Anime....I mean plz I laughed through the whole VN, and the Anime was just some casual slice of life walkthrough. The problem with the adaptations is simple - they always choose the true route and even more often the harem route...which is rarely the best route.Last modified on 2013-04-21 at 15:55 |
| #20 by darkmac 2013-04-21 at 17:40 | < report >ef's probably the best one I can think of. Amazing direction there, and some changes that dramatically improve things (notably Chihiro's route). VN's still very good though. Higurashi anime, manga, and VN are all amazing in different ways. ^_^ |
| #21 by space-ranger 2013-04-21 at 17:52 | < report > The problem with the adaptations is simple - they always choose the true route and even more often the harem route...which is rarely the best route. The main problem is a good VN has multiple routes and the full story is told by all the routes combined. Doing that with an anime isn't possible as it's linear and is basically just one route. Sure that route could be rewritten to be more complete, but it would still just be one route. I think this is why there are so few stories, which works well for both anime and VN. |
| #22 by transcendence 2013-04-21 at 19:20 | < report >I haven't played Clannad yet, though I have watched the anime. It was good enough for me, actually, it's probably the best slice of life anime I've watched so far. I didn't even know it was a visual novel at first, so assuming the visual novel is better than the anime, then Clannad would probably be one of the visual novels with anime good adaptation.Last modified on 2013-04-22 at 08:37 |
| #23 by PabloC 2013-04-21 at 20:23 | < report > ef's probably the best one I can think of. Yuuko's story is what made the VN awesome. Too bad that it's not present in the anime - instead we get a silly parody with a retarded girl who liked playing with a random ball in the middle of the street.It wasn't screwed up by the lack of episodes, multiple routes, and other typical problems with converting a VN into a different medium (at least they weren't the main reason). No, it was completely butchered just because the creators felt like it. That's why I find the Tale of Melodies especially annoying among all anime adaptations. Actually, I kinda hate it. >_> @mazyrian I may give the anime a try when I won't have anything better to do, animated Primula is a good enough reason (though VN's CGs look much better than the anime anyway). From what I have seen, I find the idea of Kaede's personality change pretty random and silly, but I'll see how it actually worked when I watch the whole thing. My expectations are extremely low though. :P Oh, I have thought about one anime adaptation that was sorta good... or rather, worked well... in a way. Hotaruko (aka. Crimson Climax). It's just a H-anime, mainly yuri-themed, with story that only pretends to make sense (no surprise here). The good thing is that, title and some character's names aside, it has absolutely nothing to do with the VN (that is story-oriented and mainly heterosexual btw.). Now, most of the time I figure everything out too early, which makes mystery and horror plots a bit less entertaining. But when I was reading Hotaruko, thanks to all fake ideas and clues I got from the anime, I was constantly surprised. I even didn't guess some of the villains right. That was fun. ^^Last modified on 2013-04-21 at 20:24 |
| #24 by cucumberian 2013-04-21 at 20:45 | < report >I'm very partial to the Air movie adaptation. It focuses almost entirely on Misuzu and Haruko, but I think this was a wise decision for a movie-length feature. It has a great hazy, dreamlike atmosphere, and they did an impressive job connecting the two time periods. After watching the Air TV anime, it was refreshing that the movie had almost no fluff or filler. Kanon (2006) has tons of fluff, but KyoAni's stunning animation really seals it. School Days condenses most of the actually interesting content from the VN, which was pretty much a low-budget anime to begin with. They also made the brave decision to finish with a BAD END, which famously got the last episode replaced with Nice Boat on TV Kanagawa. YU-NO's anime must be one of the worst, when considering the quality of the VN. Looks like shit and has next to nothing to do with it. I still want to see the live-action Higurashi movie just to lulz at it.Last modified on 2013-04-21 at 20:54 |
| #25 by herki 2013-04-21 at 21:22 | < report > @herki: this topic is about the "Best" adaptation, not the "Worst" :) hard to respond seriously when someone asks a question that doesn't have an answer not to mention "Also you shouldn't feel like you missed something while you watch the anime." wtf that is clearly impossible |