AN ENGLISH RELEASE?!

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#376 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:06
< report >How many copies of the nukiges do mg even sell? Like 100-300 of each game? I can't imagine them selling even that manyLast modified on 2013-05-14 at 05:06
#377 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 05:12
< report >@ 376 Enough to break even and start making a profit after a couple days. And their SHS titles probably don't have to do much better. Considering that company is basically shoving all their titles onto MG to release, MG most likely doesn't have to pay as much to get the title and thus it is easier to turn a profit.
#378 by cucumberian
2013-05-14 at 05:14
< report >Tough question, you'd have to ask MG. On one hand there's a huge market for anime porn that's largely invisible to us, because it doesn't care about anything besides porn and wouldn't participate in communities like this one. On the other, porn is pirated all over the internet even more mercilessly than most digital media, which would destroy sales.

I'm sure it helps that they're getting the licenses for peanuts, though.Last modified on 2013-05-14 at 05:15
#379 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:16
< report >Yeah so that should be a hint to translate non nukiges? Like more then 5 hour games and combine all the time it takes to make 5 nukiges and tranaslte one good one

Even though there of course will still be pirates
#380 by loctar87
2013-05-14 at 05:21
< report >@379 The thing is, non-nukiges do not sell better than the nukiges. They have the same terrible sales numbers, with higher costs.
#381 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 05:21
< report >Well, they have Chou Dengeki Stryker, Harukoi Otome, and Ef: The Latter Tale. Now, how well they will do is another story. Wish they didn't do the whole secret title thing so we would know if any of those are good or not...

Edit: @380 - That is true. And MangaGamer still has that stigma of bad translation quality(and also Nukige, Nukige, and even more Nukige releases). And even JAST now has their stigma of buggy games and slow as hell releases. Now MGs reputation hurts their sales, but I don't know if JASTs reputation hurts theirs as badly. Heck, I wonder how long it takes for JAST to even pull in a profit on their releases.Last modified on 2013-05-14 at 05:26
#382 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:25
< report >Well mg never ceases to disappoint me so no surprise
#383 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 05:27
< report >Well, now we have 3 companies with reputations attached to them. Already went over MG and JAST, but now we have MoeNovel turning an original 18+ game into an all-ages. How well it does will determine if they even make it in the market, and if they change their reputation.
#384 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:29
< report >They'll be another big disappointment if they DO succeed and ONLY publish all age games
#385 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 05:32
< report >Well, we need someone to release quality all-ages titles. I do agree that most ero is crap... Really really crap. I don't agree with just cutting content though, and their first title should have been an all-ages title from the get-go.
#386 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:34
< report >Well ok but they're taking KISSING out is that Inappropriate for kids? :/
And only nukige is crap that is why I never ever ever ever ever ever play it I like 3 sex scenes max per herione not fucking every second they have the chance
#387 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 05:38
< report >Well, not necessarily taking out kissing, as so much covering it up... Which is stupid and pointless. As if a teen has never seen someone kiss before...

And I don't think I ever bought a nukige. Mindless sex is just boring. Of course, even non-nukige sex is boring. As a beta-tester, h-scenes are annoying as hell to read. That and even not testing them they seem to repeat the same crap over and over again. Or try to 'spice' it up with stupid euphemisms.
#388 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:43
< report >Exactly....


I bought like my first vn since I didn't have a computer to pirate and that was kana imouto and never really finished that since then only purchased one since it was not anywhere on the Internet to be found so I had no choice.


And well er I won't be surprised if mg goes out of business I'm surprised anyone buys VNs let alone nukiges
#389 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 05:45
< report >Isn't MG pretty much doing what JAST did. Starting with mainly crappy nukige interspersed with a story VN? Would love to compare sales charts on how the business has been doing, and see how well JAST and all there defunct/bought out branch companies did at the start. Would be an interesting comparison.Last modified on 2013-05-14 at 05:46
#390 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 05:52
< report >Well jast is releasing Sumaga which I am pumped about and cleavage as well that looks and sounds fantastic


Looking through all mg upcoming releases
Otome looks decent

However you can just look at the names
Eroge
Bukkake
Society of love
Imouto (basically ANYTHING with imouto in it is about fucking onii chan and that's it)

All the rest are crappy nukiges
Poor translators lolLast modified on 2013-05-14 at 05:52
#391 by stromiv
2013-05-14 at 06:02
< report >Poor beta testers and translators is more like it. SSSS and Boob Wars made me want to melt my brain from having read them. As for Harukoi... Well... Yeah... Harukoi. I will just say that beta testing Harukoi was an 'interesting' experience.
#392 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 06:20
< report >Oh god how could I forget about them, it must be as hard as working on deadliest catch lol
If you get what I meanLast modified on 2013-05-14 at 06:21
#393 by pirkaf
2013-05-14 at 07:41
< report >luckypapaper said: "They'll be another big disappointment if they DO succeed and ONLY publish all age games"

Exactly! This development is very dangerous, that's why the voices of fans must be heard. It's a similar issue as several years ago when they wanted to censor Soul Link. I also sent an email to support@moenovel.com
#394 by luckypaper
2013-05-14 at 07:58
< report >Their just acting like clowns and their gonna fuck themselves over
#395 by chipp12
2013-05-14 at 08:15
< report >> Imouto (basically ANYTHING with imouto in it is about fucking onii chan and that's it)
RiaImo?
#396 by vgmaster
2013-05-14 at 08:54
< report >Why they hell would they remove the H-scenes in the english release!?!
#397 by zakamutt
2013-05-14 at 09:16
< report >@ #396: try reading the thread.
#398 by ultimecea
2013-05-14 at 09:37
< report >@390 Yumina > Sumaga
how many years have they been testing it???

and STROM..i remember your experience with Harukoi
#399 by kilicool64
2013-05-14 at 09:44
< report >Sigh... 90% of the posts in this topic are basically "OMG! They're removing the H-scenes. Noooooo!"

Personally, I'll wait until I see the final product. I'm one of the very, very few people here who dislike H-scenes, so if they're not critical for plot or character development, then I have no problem with them being removed. Now, if they are actually important and their removal severely weakens character development or even creates plot holes, then I'd have to agree that this is a stupid decision. In that case they should've chosen a VN where the H-scenes are less important. Though if the companies they're working with are especially cooperative, they could try rewriting the script in a few cases in order to move important lines outside of the H-scenes. But unless anyone here has played the game and can tell me, I'll just wait for the English release. You guys will probably hate me for this, but I'm happy that MoeNovel is trying to allow VNs to reach a wider audience. And that simply isn't possible when they contain sexual content because people are extremely prejediced against this kind of stuff.
#400 by gabezhul
2013-05-14 at 09:49
< report >And I suppose the 400th post would be a good opportunity to close this off, as this thread really isn't going anywhere and it's just causing more and more silly speculation and confusion amongst those who were late to the partly.

I would be thankful if one of you guys who read the entire discussion (except Luckypaper. no offense, but I would rather trust this on someone less biased) could open a new thread that would sum this one up for the newcomers and could be used strictly for status updates. It would be much appreciated. That said, lock, and have a nice day.

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