About Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 relations

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#1 by immlff
2013-06-29 at 17:59
Regarding v10000.10 edit.

@then00bavenger
I know very well what alternative version means (I'm one of vndb's mods, even if mostly inactive atm) and that's what was described in t3469. Specifically:
In KF2 we basically have the exact same premise as in the first game. There is a loser protagonist (with a pun name), who somehow manages to achieve success and get a lot of girls in the process, all in medieval fantasy setting. Storyline elements, characters, situations and places are also very similar to the first game, so it feels more like a remake, not a sequel.
That in itself is not necessarily bad, but if you played KF1 you basically will know the main plot and won't be suprised by how it develops.

If that relation is not accurate/appropriate, then you should explain why (without spoilers preferably).

Also, if setting it as a prequel to the first Kyonyuu Fantasy is correct, then we definitely should do it. Prequel-sequel relationship is stronger and we usually use the strongest option out of the applicable ones (at least for official relations).
#2 by then00bavenger
2013-06-29 at 18:16
Alternative Version means they use the same characters to tell the same story in a different way.

KF2 uses different characters and it takes place before KF1 in the same world. It's simple.

The thing is that the prequel relation isn't exactly that important. They throw in a reference to Lord Wackenheim(Gladys's dad who's dead by the time of KF1) and in the Shaharl ending the baby you have with her is Shamshir the main heroine of KF1

If anything it's light fanservice for people who played the first game that's better off coming as a pleasant surprise when it happens instead of knowing it beforehand because it's listed in the database.Last modified on 2013-06-29 at 18:30
#3 by immlff
2013-06-29 at 18:45
Alternative Version means they use the same characters to tell the same story in a different way.
Not necessarily, the usage is more broad. As I've already said, description from t3469 does fit into the "alternative version" relation.

I think I'll move this thread to KF2's board to gather more feedback.

Edit:
If anything it's light fanservice for people who played the first game that's better off coming as a pleasant surprise when it happens instead of knowing it beforehand because it's listed in the database.
This makes sense, but I'll still move the thread to see if anyone has something to add.Last modified on 2013-06-29 at 18:50
#4 by tiglath
2013-06-29 at 20:53
Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 takes place 400 years before events described in Kyonyuu Fantasy and on a different continent. What I meant in the part you cited is that it FEELS like a remake - it's very similar, but it doesn't mean it's identical. Low spoilerish example: Elicia in KF2 and Isis in KF - they are both classic tsundere blonde warriors, who have their own separate routes that branch off from the main storyline considerably. Storyline element example: in both games protag is considered a disgrace by his teachers and in order to get rid of him they send him to a remote, backwater town, where he meets an unusual individual who will accompany him until the end of the story.

BTW, Kyonyuu Majo also reuses some of them to a much lesser extent - it takes place in modern setting, but characters from Kyonyuu Fantasy are referenced as historical figures and there are some subtle references (for example fierce dobermans are called Bernstein and One Koan).

Protagonists of those three games are also VERY closely related, but explaining it in detail would require heavy spoilers, so I'd rather avoid it.

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