|#1 by leonne|
2015-11-30 at 12:46
|So, i was playing this game for around 1 hour and i was faced with the first selection in this game, i thought there will be another selection to make so i just playing this game for around 6 hours. At first i was thinking "why this game common route only focusing on 1 heroine?? maybe the individual introduction part was longer than i expected"|
But hey after 6 hours of play i thought why i almost never seen another heroines, and then i checked the walkthrough, turned out there is only 1 decision to make on this game and it simply determine on which route you go -_-
It's not about the single decision that shocked me, but the common route was the shortest compared to any eroge i've ever played. I seriously didn't see that coming
|#2 by chronopolize|
2015-11-30 at 13:28
|Lol, I would have been like wtf too.|
|#3 by christown|
2015-11-30 at 15:23
|Indeed. I viewed the walkthrough before I started and was surprised by the single choice, but I wasn't expecting the choice to come so soon either.|
I've only completed one route so far, as I went onto a different game, but that route itself was also pretty short compared to most. So I think overall it's not a very long title, partly due to the lack of a proper common route.Last modified on 2015-11-30 at 15:25
|#4 by ds1150|
2015-11-30 at 21:57
|That almost sounds like Otome ga Tsumugu Koi no Canvas by the same company. In that game the route choices are like right at the start, and lock you in for the rest of the game.|
Not that Ensemble ever really makes it any difficult to get the heroine that you want though.
I only played this game for a little bit and didn't even get to the choice that mentioned. Don't think I'll continue either, it doesn't really get to me so far.
|#5 by clephas|
2015-12-01 at 03:27
|Generally speaking, this is a tactic for when they choose to focus on individual heroine character development over larger character dynamics... In the case of Koi no Canvas, that wasn't the case, but in this game, it fits... |
I found that the much, much deeper heroine development than is usual for this type of game more than made up for the lack of a common route. I also thought the individual routes were far better thought out than I've been forced to become accustomed to recently, lol.
|#6 by mahooo|
2015-12-01 at 13:17
|I'm installing this as we speak but short common route in it of itself isn't a bad thing. I mean from second heroine on you end up skipping the damn thing anyway. |
Of course if that means the overall game length is shortened (with no change to the price) that'd be a pretty low blow.
I don't mind getting a heroine with a single decision either, I actualy prefere it that way.
If I wanted to interact with the media I'd be playing an actual video game not a VN. VNs with actual gameplay is another matter really (even though most of the time said gameplay is superfluous and subpar imo) but it's not like there is any challenge in clicking arbitrary choices on a screen especialy when you basicaly have infinite save slots and fast foward, it always feels like a total waste of time to me (which is why I use walkthroughs all the time). Ironicaly the only "choices" I somehow appreciate are the ones that usualy have no impact on the route choice but rather bring different comical outcomes.
Now the issue with entering a route with a single decision is when that decision comes too early and you have no time to really make up your mind on which heroine's route you want to enter first, which might just be the case with this game if the common route is so short...
So to me both short common route and single choice route decision aren't bad things but I'll have to see for myself if Ensemble did a good job of using those mechanics.
|#7 by kobashisensei|
2015-12-11 at 14:00
|Quite frankly I don't even get what keeps people playing ensemble games.|
Let alone give high scores to them.
Ensemble should get a"Most booooring games ever" award for pretty much every game they ever made with the exception of "Otome ga Tsumugu Koi no Canvas"
(No wonder they had some sort of quarell or whatever with the writer('s) of that one)
and to a lesser extent "Ojou-sama wa Gokigen Naname".
They never made anything that even came close to those two nor being interesting or funny .
Honestly it is literally a chore to play their games.
This one I gave up after a few tries never could bear more than an hour or so.
|#8 by prodyzer|
2016-04-09 at 07:13
|Likewise, finished a route and when I went for next route, I decided to call it a quit. The plot and scenario is too cliche and insignificant, unless you're new to the icha-icha VNs, you'll find this game a chore to play. I mean I got so sleepy and went for nap twice while playing the game.|
The game itself is not bad, I like the CGs, interface, VAs, etc. The fault lies on it's overly mundane story.
|#9 by nekonyaa|
2016-04-15 at 07:53
|How do you guys play this untranslated? Does everyone know how to read Kanji or do you guys use machine translation?|
|#10 by prodyzer|
2016-04-24 at 18:11
I use parse function, sth like this link
you can scroll over to the kanji if you don't understand which mean you need to at least have basic japanese knowledge
|#11 by bunny1ov3r|
2016-04-24 at 20:36
wow, that program seems really useful. As a Chinese I can read most of the Japanese kanji and guess a lot of their meaning (as in Japanese), but can't pronounce most of them. I'll definitely use this program when I want to read japanese vn in the future.
Does this program work for every VN?Last modified on 2016-04-25 at 02:38
|#12 by nekonyaa|
2016-04-25 at 09:27
Intresting~ unfortunately i only know a handful of words in Japanese. But a great program nonetheless so thanks!
|#13 by prodyzer|
2016-04-25 at 12:32
generally most. Have no problem playing 95% of the latest game if you use ITHVNR.
Meaning you run ITHVNR to capture the text from VN
then use Chiitrans Lite to capture the 'captured' text in ITHVNR.
I started untranslated VNs knowing just a few kanjis, but overtime as you read the romaji, you somehow knows the meaning of it (with some help of the Voice-acting)
I suggest playing those charages (no difficult vocabs , slice of life, moe-ge). If you've been watching anime for years, it's not that tough to adapt. Your brain will optically recognize characters involuntarily.
By all means, give it a try if you're keen in learning japanese.
|#14 by kiru|
2016-04-25 at 12:44
|Uh.. do yourself a favor and learn Kana, and don't bother with romaji.|
|#15 by nekonyaa|
2016-05-02 at 03:57
Today i have offically decided to learn kanji, not the characters themselves because it will probably take me a couple of years to learn, instead i'll be using that software you showed me because i feel that way is so much easier, and with each word i come across that i don't know the definition hopefully google will help me on that and then i'll write it down so i wont forget. It's a matter of time to learn Japanese, i'm so tired of waiting years for vn to be translated and most of time they get dropped... Thank you very much for showing me this! ^-^
Edit: Anoo, prodyzer-senpai can you please help me on how to use this program? I downloaded Chiitrans and synced it to my vn but i don't get English letters like yours does, instead i get this link Also why is it only translating some words with me? and why am i getting that error message? Sorry for all these questions, but i really don't know what i'm doing. >.<
I have VNR but i don't know how to sync the two programs together, i tried to open both programs but VNR would give me this error message linkLast modified on 2016-05-02 at 05:17
|#16 by kiru|
2016-05-02 at 09:11
|Aside of the error message, that looks fine. Again, learn Kana, don't bother with romaji. Really. That's at most a week for the basics. The rest comes from reading.|
|#17 by tinkerbell|
2016-05-02 at 21:56
|Perhaps Ensemble's specified in tedious descriptions of daily life xD|
|#18 by prodyzer|
2016-05-09 at 01:38
sorry for the late reply, you just make sure you switch the ruby text to latin as shown in the image here
The parse was alright. So you're doing fine.
if you need to open both programs and it fails, try to open VNR or ITH or ITHVNR first then chiitrans.
@kiru you're right about it, it doesn't take long to learn but it takes forever to finish the first few VNs.
|#19 by bobjr2000|
2018-04-16 at 05:32
|I do enjoy ensemble games but not gonna I have used it as a sleeping aid before XD. Just leave it on auto take off my glasses and just listen to japanese. After 15-30 minutes trying to understand what they are saying get very tired and turn it off. Sleep like a baby after :)|
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