Game inclusion in the DB

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#526 by mysterycorgi
2019-06-13 at 11:51
I tried looking this one for on the database as well as discussions and didn't see anything, so I'm bringing it up here: Forget Me Not: My Organic Garden
I'm a bit on the fence because of the incremental/clicker gameplay, but the story is 100% kinetic novel, drawn out by the incremental gardening gameplay.

I also wonder about Insurgence - Chains of Renegade because despite being a RPGMaker game due to how the story and dialogue are delivered. Example 1, Example 2, Example 3, as well as this example and this choice screen which are both from the upcoming sequel.Last modified on 2019-06-13 at 11:52
#527 by beliar
2019-06-21 at 16:01
Just to squash that frequent misconception, but ADV style story presentation, CGs and choices are not necessarily the exclusive features of visual novels. Rather they are also pretty much the standard features of most jRPGs.

The main feature that separates VNs from jRPGs is the presence of narration, which we have as a requirement for games that include gameplay.

Anyway, I did take a quick look at "Insurgence - Chains of Renegade", and as I suspected it's definitely not a visual novel. It's pretty much a traditional RPG, with the only thing of note regarding it, being the atrocious machine translated English language :-(
#528 by mrkew
2019-06-22 at 07:28
I want to ask if the VN hybrid from the circle PeperoncinoSoft Virgin Road (released in the west as Holy Road by Kagura Games) is allowed, so that I don't waste my time creating a page for it. It meets both of the requirements specified in the rules.
Narration - both in H-scenes and normal scenes. About 50% of the H-scene lines are narration. link
Presentation method - Large majority of the time is spent reading the text in a text window (ADV). Video of the first 10 minutes is here: link
#529 by warfoki
2019-06-22 at 21:11
Oh, I played this one a while back. I think it would fit. The gameplay is very simplistic and will make up at most like 30% of the play-time. It's essentially just padding in between scenes. It might seem more than it is at first with all the freedom of placing buildings and whatnot, but once you figure out the very simple mechanics of the game, the entire management becomes a pretty much thoughtless routine that you can be done with quite fast. I can't remember the ratio of narration anymore, but I remember it being there. I'm not the guy making the final decisions on these things, but I think it could fit here.
#530 by donkeyskin
2019-06-29 at 06:29
Does this (there's nudity) count as a visual novel that can be added to the database?

I found a video for those who don't want to download it: link (again, nudity)

The issue is that it's extremely short (one minute if you only play it once without trying for all the cards). There's the fortune teller's dialogue presented in ADV style (with no narration). Technically, all of the title is made of pure reading, there's no game hybrid element, only a normal vn-like choice. It should count as a pure vn.

I read #517 message and thought it could apply despite its shortness, but I feel extremely silly adding it without anyone else's blessing.
#531 by eacil
2019-06-29 at 06:41
Length is not a criterium for inclusion/exclusion.
#532 by donkeyskin
2019-06-29 at 14:39
Yeah, somehow I was under the impression there had to be a minimum length to draw the line at.
Anyway, in case it is still deemed objectionable, the page I created can be found here: link
#533 by usagi
2019-07-09 at 15:38
I strongly suspect that Monster Prom does not belong here. Judging by screens and description - it's PURE dating sim.
#534 by beliar
2019-07-09 at 21:44
Yeah, I have checked Monster Prom and in my eyes it really doesn't qualify as a visual novel. It has no plot. You basically choose the length of your game session and then try to raise the affection with one of the characters.

The events that happen do have a VN presentation, including the narration, but there is no plot, which I do think is a requirement for the game to be a "novel"...

What do you guys think? If I hear no strenuous objections I will delete the game in a few days.
#535 by lunaterra
2019-07-09 at 22:37
Monster Prom is just The Yawhg with a different skin. I don't mean this as an insult, it's just what it is--they're mechanically identical.

The Yawhg was deleted from the database for being more CYOA than visual novel, so if that went, then Monster Prom should go too. (Although ironically, The Yawhg actually has more of a plot: "a monster's going to destroy the town in a week, raise your stats so you can help rebuild.")

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