Game inclusion in the DB

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#576 by kiru
2019-11-11 at 12:20
@573: Adventure is the main genre where the sub genres branch off. Visual Novels are one of those. Just like point and click adventures and others. Japan tends to call them "renai adventure" or similar stuff, but every creator loves to make up some kind of special genre for their game there anyway. Sanoba Witch for example: おなやみ解決! 魔女っ子ADV (Trouble solving! Magical girl Adventure)
That doesn't mean that ALL adventures are VNs, but all VNs are also an adventure game. That's why it's not wrong to call a VN an "adventure". But it'd be wrong to call something a VN just because it's part of the adventure genre.

Think of it like this. A potentially existing DB for jrpg style games would not want crpgs in it either. Both are rpgs, but still very different styles of games. All jrpgs are rpgs, but not all rpgs are jrpgs.Last modified on 2019-11-11 at 12:25
#577 by adamstan
2019-11-11 at 12:45
Adventure is the main genre where the sub genres branch off. Visual Novels are one of those.

But it'd be wrong to call something a VN just because it's part of the adventure genre.

A potentially existing DB for jrpg style games would not want crpgs in it either.

@576 - yes, I totally agree. I guess I just wanted to counter the opinions that 90's proto-VN games somehow aren't VN-enough to belong on VNDB. And I feel like those opinions stem from treating the "novel" part of "Visual Novel" moniker too literally.

In other words - for me titles such as Sanoba Witch, Mashiroiro Symphony, Clannad - but also YU-NO, Sakura no Kisetsu and other similar JADV games all belong to the same subgenre of adventure games that we tend to call "Visual Novels", and are different enough from Western-style adventure games (like Broken Sword series or King's Quest series etc).Last modified on 2019-11-11 at 12:52
#578 by palas
2019-11-11 at 13:43
@575 of course not, but there's no one out there saying they're not games

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