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#126 by kiru
2018-02-11 at 10:48
I mean, Mangagamer released plenty of nukige featuring pretty damn loli loli's. Even some where you only have a loli. Sure, one, but a nukige only featuring one loli is probably even worse than something like Maitetsu where you don't have to touch lewds if you don't want to. You know. "I'm here for the trains".
#127 by dk382
2018-02-12 at 01:44
The lolis in MG's games tend to look older than the lolis in Maitetsu. MG's staff hasn't exactly been subtle about how they would never license anything like Maitetsu/Monobeno. The girls just look too young.

edit: I would say that even mare looks older than some of the girls in lose's eroge.Last modified on 2018-02-12 at 01:45
#128 by kiru
2018-02-12 at 09:29
Pretty sure that if people have issues with loli, Tsumairo Shoujo ~Fuufu Seikatsu, Hajimemasu~ or Natsuiro Mikan ~Ecchi na Shoujo to Shitataru Nioi~ give you more than enough issues. Of course, Maitetsu may still go one step further, but at that point it won't really matter any more either. Pretty much just fancy dolls anyway.
#129 by sakurakoi
2018-02-12 at 10:56
Never forget: It is all about fee-fees, from both, those "concerned parents"...

as if rape was less bad if the victim is still weak, can not resist but is no child anymore when it is but a fact that having their child be subject of this means that they failed to protect them.

And of the one who publishes such material...

that may very well practically actually reduce crimes by giving those few who would have commit them for whatever reason have an outlet for their desire or rather frustration. Not many crimes (especially not such severely punished ones) are committed by people who are happy or even just contend. Rather than having new children/people discover they fetish/desire when they would never have and someday end up acting on it.

Publishers simply feel threatened by the possible backlash when the arbitrary feelings of the "normies", "prudes" and whatever is directed at them. Pr0n has always been the progressive industry (and actually progressive) which advances by probing and advancing step by step, one little one at a time and do step a little back when e.g. Steam finally reacts to all 'em 18+ patches because nudity and sex is worse than violence.

It is but a fact that Maitetsu's characters are one step too deep for MG, they can not classify as teenagers even. Tsumairo Shoujo ~Fuufu Seikatsu, Hajimemasu~ and Natsuiro Mikan ~Ecchi na Shoujo to Shitataru Nioi~ have pubescent girls, over 140cm tall and could be at least 14 by appearance (guessing anime age, always a fun task) but here the problem children/trains(?) are 124cm, 113cm, 130cm (Emi from Monobeno is even just 87cm by the by). That's obviously much younger (I just looked at an actual chart for average heights... Emi would be smaller than the average 2 year old, pretty much toddlercon, no? Even if it is average, and probably American, the difference is glaring). MG by the by already released "long" ago (well, over 4 years ago) a game with a 146cm token loli: Sonono Nene and heck, even their first titles had them (even if no height is noted there).

The point merely is:
but at that point it won't really matter any more either. Pretty much just fancy dolls anyway.
there is no point in trying to make such one and for those which whom you do not ally with. This is about emotion, not reason. All one can do is (trying to) explain those and, indeed publishers try to, manipulate them. Slowly, surely, without losing their heads. Making "them" get used to it is pretty much the sole way for drawing lines is even tough for us...

And wouldn't it be odd if laws would dictate specifically that no girl (never mind boys) below 146cm should be depicted to engage in sexual activity or in a sexual manner (which itself is rather arbitrary, some might just say that panchira would be a crime that should make one a registered sex offender if one possesses it and alienated forever, again never mind that those might very well then become "real" criminals when they would not have). Atm and since forever laws were indeed arbitrary.Last modified on 2018-02-12 at 10:56
#130 by pendelhaven
2018-02-12 at 17:28
remember guys, you just need to plaster the following phrase:

all characters are 18 or above. this is a work of fiction. all characters do not represent real world people, no matter how loli it looks like.
#131 by n4sh
2018-02-12 at 17:41
@128 Those didn't matter because literally no one bought those kusoges.
#132 by lordnight
2018-02-13 at 00:59
I bought it though?
#133 by n4sh
2018-02-19 at 22:07
Maitetsu doesn't appear as stalled or waiting for a 3rd party on trelo anymore, just "on track". Is it getting real yet?
#134 by being
2018-05-23 at 18:48
I think the whole thing was just a ruse
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#136 by aquahorse
2018-05-30 at 22:29
#137 by vainmagic
2018-06-05 at 05:21
I saw an announcement that it's already awaiting for a steam approval. sorry for the bad english !
#138 by eacil
2018-06-07 at 08:46
#139 by cnkx
2018-06-07 at 11:51
Now if only it just stayed there exclusively and SP stopped being suicidal enough to release it on steam, that would be amazing. Especially after all the VN controversy. But I guess they can't resist the possible money, even though they have so many other games to sell.

Can't they just give this one exclusively to +18 owners for once? this on steam is gonna bring unwanted attention. Steam already gets more than enough VN's.

Gotta love how I'm discussing this as if we were discussing some black market drug deal, but well, what can you do. They are inevitably going to ruin it for everyone, just you watch.
#140 by jigsy
2018-06-07 at 12:57
Despite the fact the 18+ version is uncut and DRM free, the HCG still have mosaics...Last modified on 2018-06-07 at 13:00
#141 by fuukanou
2018-06-07 at 14:35
#140, it is uncut. The Japanese versions had mosaics as well...
#142 by jigsy
2018-06-07 at 15:25
The Japanese version would, though.
#143 by fuukanou
2018-06-07 at 16:31
#142, of course it does, it's the law.
You can't imply it's not uncut, because it actually has all the content of the Japanese version.
#144 by dk382
2018-06-07 at 19:12
He never said it wasn't uncut. In fact, he specifically said it was...

He's just complaining about the mosaics.
#145 by eacil
2018-06-07 at 21:58
I don't want to fight so: do we consider Fakku as the publisher of the 18+ because they created an entry on their store and tweet here and there like.. I don't know, j-list does for their imported daki? Yes, Denpasoft/SP is not credited (I guess they are in the credits) but I assume they don't want to take a potential shitstorm in the face so they hide behind a second proxy while they try to put the all-age edition on Steam. They most likely couldn't release the all-age first because the shitstorm would have come from their back (angry fans) and give them unnecessary light. By sneakily releasing it on Fakku and distancing themselves from it, they muffle the bad rep the best they could.

So, Denpasoft, Fakku or both or do we wait for a screenshot of the credits? (In fact, I was thinking about removing DLsite from link like a monopoly is just a deal and doesn't make you more of a publisher than when you sell other stuff, the dev just gets more meat.)
#146 by sanahtlig
2018-06-07 at 22:39
Denpasoft is implied to be the publisher and Fakku the distributor--unless Fakku commissioned the translation and incorporation of the H-scenes. Fakku claims to be nothing other than a distributor in the announcement. Lose could also potentially be the publisher.Last modified on 2018-06-07 at 22:41
#147 by tw1sted
2018-06-08 at 00:30
It doesn't matter who did the translation - Sekai is credited as the publisher for the new version of Muv Luv even though Degica did all the work, because the rights were transferred to them. If Fakku holds the exclusive rights to the 18+ version, does that not make them the same? It's different from Fakku just being another store in other cases because they seem to be handling everything about the release.

I don't know where you got that Denpasoft is implied to be the publisher, because it looks to me like Sekai has washed their hands entirely of the 18+ release because they don't want to deal with the legalities of it. I don't think Denpasoft should be listed as the publisher if they don't want to be connected at all to it.
#148 by dk382
2018-06-08 at 10:44
The Maitetsu and Muv Luv situations are different. If you wanted to actually compare the two, you'd say that Valve should be listed as the publisher for Muv Luv all-ages versions because Steam is the only store you can buy those games on. But that doesn't make any sense, nor does it make sense to list Fakku as the publisher here.

Distributors are not publishers. Denpasoft is publishing Maitetsu through Fakku, but that does not make Fakku the publisher. Essentially, selling is not publishing, and the exclusive right to sell is different from the exclusive right to publish.
#149 by n4sh
2018-06-12 at 15:26


Get loli'd west!
#150 by pendelhaven
2018-06-12 at 16:13
But where's my monobeno?


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