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#876 by gvbn
2021-11-27 at 16:50
< report >Is there a reason why Muv-Luv Alternative Chronicles: Last Divers is plural "Divers" instead of singular "Diver"?

The Japanese title uses "daibaa", not "daibaazu". Compare this to Muv-Luv Alternative Chronicles: Chicken Divers which uses the plural "daibaazu" instead of "daibaa"
#877 by beliar
2021-11-27 at 16:55
< report >I have copied the title from Wiki, but that might have been a mistake. It does indeed look like it should be a "diver", not "divers".
#878 by trickzzter
2021-11-27 at 18:30
< report >It's not really a mistake. You can find "Divers" in the main menu link
#879 by trickzzter
2021-11-27 at 18:40
< report >And the official website also call it "Divers": ラスト・ダイバーズ linkLast modified on 2021-11-27 at 18:40
#880 by Ezezin
2021-12-03 at 18:12
< report >Should Cosplay be used for characters engaging in costume parties, Halloween events and other similar themes? I don't think it should be the case but I don't know what other trait should be used.
#881 by NaioHoras
2021-12-04 at 00:30
< report >nah, halloween party have become a cosplay event lately with no relation to spooky stuff whatsoever, so it's mostly applicable, as long as it fits the desc.Last modified on 2021-12-04 at 00:37
#882 by parap
2021-12-09 at 16:40
< report >Relating cover art, three questions/discussions:

1. Is it preferable to use the original VN country version (like link) or an intl cover where the protagonist or other main character are prominent (like link)?

2. Is it preferable to use an image from a physical edition rather than a digital one?

3. If a physical edition is used: is it preferable to use the original image (with the age rating, platform and so on) or an edited "clean" version (official or not)?

#883 by NaioHoras
2021-12-09 at 16:56
< report >#882 t8242.588, the rest depends on the editor's taste.
#884 by Ileca
2021-12-09 at 17:49
< report >1. I, and I say I, always favor the original. Arguments such as "but the hundreds of characters are all piled up in this one!" are foreign to me.
Remakes covers should be banned tho as they don't represent the original game but revisionnism.
2. Physical, no question asked and that's the custom for this one.
3. Same, the physical cover implies the various "badges", as they appear when you receive the object.
I removed the PS banner for NG to see what it looked like because I believe those consoles banners are too conspicuous. Prolly doesn't work for every console if the banner is not perfectly rectangular. Can't say it looked good anyway. No good solution here.

4. If it's released on multiple platforms simultaneously, always favor the windows one. Otherwise, choose the one you prefer. Same for editions.
5. If the cover is good, don't change it, especially with the latest fad. I will not hesitate to revert if it brings no benefit.

I can't wait for the covers to be linked to releases so I don't have to put up with the faddists anymore.
#885 by slashslayer
2021-12-09 at 22:25
< report >
Remakes covers should be banned tho as they don't represent the original game but revisionnism.
but don't remakes share the same entry with their original material because vndb takes them as only one story? following that logic, whether it's the remake cover or not should not matter
#886 by Ileca
2021-12-10 at 00:41
< report >They share an entry when they share the same script but covers are about visuals.
#887 by slashslayer
2021-12-12 at 01:15
< report >same logic: if the script is what ultimately determines which remakes are a different visual novel than their original counterpart, no matter how much the visual changes(except if it recontextualizes completely the game, i think? i suppose that's the case but i've never seen one like that in here) only them should matter in overall organization, making the covers equally irrelevant in this regard

of course, if every release has their own cover as you apparently implied that it's being planned, this is completely solved
#888 by Ileca
2021-12-12 at 04:58
< report >Why do you think I said "I, and I say I"? It's my personal opinion that people who played remakes can't pretend to have played the original but something entirely different. Even more when the system itself was remade like for Kamaitachi no Yoru - Rinne Saisei. Vndb might not disagree but it doesn't want to split entries too much and atm the criterium is that only the script matters. It doesn't mean that vndb must abide by your logic. Releases are just grouped under a VN entry but it doesn't mean they are equal as they are obviously not. It's less that those releases are equal like you say that splitting will become harder and that grouping votes this way is prefered, etc.
#889 by slashslayer
2021-12-14 at 15:07
< report >i think you misunderstood me, and i myself am not sure i understand what you said with your last post, but to clarify, nothing that i just said is necessarily what my preference for this site in this regard is. you're the mod here and i think i'd be satisfied either way honestly. i'm talking about factual logic, not the site "abiding my own logic", and by that i meant that the criterium you mentioned for covers(which you defended saying it's just your opinion) contradicts the current one for entries(which considers only the script), if you want to change it somehow so it doesn't, it's fine

this is not something so relevant, anyway. i asked you those questions because i wanted to understand your opinion's logic and how it can be executed in this site when taking its own logic into consideration, not to impose any opinion or deny your right of having one
#890 by Ezezin
2021-12-19 at 04:47
< report >Asking here because I don't know any other thread where I could do it.

Is there a bot who automatically saves in the Wayback machine any website that is added in the releases, producers and staff pages?
#891 by trickzzter
2021-12-19 at 05:04
< report >No. Some of the links that I added previously have been lost forever. :(
That's why I started to archive the websites that I add to database. So that I could replace dead links with archived ones.
#892 by Chiiko
2021-12-21 at 16:29
< report >According to the guideline:
Patch: Use this checkbox to indicate that the release is a (translation) patch, used to patch an other release.

But can I add update patches too, when they are available separately?
#893 by NaioHoras
2021-12-21 at 16:38
< report >only when it's a significant update, like extra scenario, extra routes, new language addition, etc.
bug fix patches don't count.
#894 by marvn
2022-01-02 at 21:36
< report >How do you add external links to vn producers? I don't see an option for it.
#895 by beliar
2022-01-02 at 21:40
< report >External links? You must be stuck on the first screen. You need to input the dev name and then press continue. Or do you mean links like Twitter? In that case you need to create/update a Wikidata entry.
#896 by marvn
2022-01-02 at 21:46
< report >Now I'm more confused, I see a yt channel id linked on the wikidata entry of this but it isn't linked on vndb. If I were to add a yt channel or discord link to an existing entry how would I do that?
#897 by beliar
2022-01-02 at 21:48
< report >YT/Discord links are not grabbed from Wikidata. The websites that are grabbed are pretty limited, like Twitter, IGDB, HLTB, MobyGames, some others. If you want to add YT/Discord, you have to add such links to the description itself.
#898 by marvn
2022-01-02 at 23:37
< report >I see, thanks for the clarification.
#899 by BenIsZero
2022-01-03 at 02:58
< report >Unsure if I even can edit tags, but just came across Secret Boyfriend and noticed its description was copied from Secret Girlfriend, even though using 'her' pronouns for a boyfriend is pretty oxymoronic. Would fix it if I knew how to, but I don't think you can edit tags?

Edit: Thanks ^^ Reposting this over there then, though I doubt it's an issue worth much time ^^'Last modified on 2022-01-03 at 06:34
#900 by Ileca
2022-01-03 at 03:09
< report >You can’t. It's not a tag but a trait and you need to report such matter in t3314. For tags, use t3617.