Multiple account troll editor

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#1 by harleyquin
2017-07-29 at 07:41
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You've probably edited thousands of this person's edits by now and these are the aliases I'm aware of since this one has been persistently going through out-of-print VNs in alphabetical order without actually playing them. What's the stance taken by the administrators and moderators regarding this kind of behaviour?

To be fair, his edits have improved somewhat since the first spam edit wave. But so many of the edits are full of mistakes. Blanket IP bans won't work since there are technological ways to bypass them.Last modified on 2019-01-15 at 12:59
#2 by yorhel
2017-07-29 at 07:46
Just keep reporting these as soon as you find them. xiticix is an obvious duplicate account, so banned.
#3 by xiticix
2017-07-29 at 07:55
Less-fluent-than-harley editor maybe, but I have to protest against 'troll' or 'spam'. This is being done to build the database, help old games be remembered, not to fake a stance to upset anyone or to inject nonsense.

Mistakes happen, that's why people cooperate. A lot of the time the text for these characters in images is blurry to me and I have trouble making it out, I do my best to match it up with what I see on link and link and compare that against Jisho pronunciations to see what is more likely.

Thank you for acknowledging the improvements. I hope that is evidence of my good will.

Who can play some of these old things? Very hard to obtain and probably only in Japanese, and the few who can may have no interest in coming and explaining it in English.

Where it's possible to get the information from websites (in many cases the archives of them since they are dead) I think it is good to get things started, so the characters can be analyzed.

I'll take some more time off. Since I do this anyway, it would be cool if instead of ∞ban if it was just a month's ban. Gonna go watch movies until September. =/
#4 by harleyquin
2017-07-29 at 10:55
Who can play some of these old things? Very hard to obtain and probably only in Japanese, and the few who can may have no interest in coming and explaining it in English.

Shinnew does, which is why he has to clean up after the mess created. Unlike you, he DOES play the games and follows it up with research when information is incomplete or missing.

From the most recent wave of edits, the pictures used for reference are perfectly readable. Anyone who has a problem reading it either needs vision correction or a slightly lower screen resolution plus DPI resizing to compensate.

@yorhel: Is there a dedicated thread for reporting users with multiple accounts? Not sure I've seen it or it's one of those which don't show up on the main page.
#5 by shinnew
2017-07-29 at 11:08
It's actually his seventh account, I keep a list of them since I have to check through all his entries at some point.

xiticix: Requiring someone to check every single of your entries because you make uneducated guesses is not helping build the database. Having wrong info is damaging to the database, much more so than having no info. A bunch of your wrong entries are still in the same state since you made them years ago, you seriously overestimate the amount of persons that are willing to check and fix other people entries.
#6 by harleyquin
2017-07-29 at 11:32
7 accounts over a number of years... One would think this person could at least bother learning how the hiragana and katakana tables work over the period. It's not as complicated as say the Korean Hangul and there are plenty of ways out there to learn it within months.

Says he'll be back in September to create even more work for moderators.
#7 by eiesoldar
2017-07-29 at 11:56
Oh, is it the same guy? link
He used to create lots of useless threads some years ago, perhaps even sincerely trying to help the community, but...
#8 by harleyquin
2017-07-29 at 12:00
Oh, is it the same guy? link
He used to create lots of useless threads some years ago, perhaps even sincerely trying to help the community, but...

Apparently so. Link given is for one of the older aliases of this user.
#9 by harleyquin
2017-08-06 at 09:15
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Said user is back for more. I've noticed the old accounts under the same user have been unlocked, so could something be done about the multiple account edits?
#10 by shinnew
2017-08-06 at 09:20
That's a different person, please don't jump to conclusions from a few mistakes.
#11 by harleyquin
2017-08-06 at 09:47
My apologies then. Edit log had similarities with the intended object of the post.
#12 by harleyquin
2017-11-21 at 07:08
Your favourite multiple-account edit bot user is back for more. He's even ignored the advice given by another administrator regarding restraint. Your call on what to do with him.
#13 by harleyquin
2018-04-07 at 00:21
He's back using one of his old accounts to troll the database again. I don't believe a word of his protestations since it's the same tripe and he's still deluded enough to think someone else will clean up after him like adults in a nursery.

Could ALL of his accounts bar one under heavy scrutiny be banned once and for all?
#14 by yorhel
2018-04-07 at 04:54
Which account? If you're talking about haddock, he can't edit.
#15 by harleyquin
2018-04-07 at 05:29
Good to hear, although it explains the board spam as he requests others do his dirty work for him.

He's already asked for his duplicate accounts to be merged, so why not lock them all and force him to use one which can be monitored? The backlog of mess he's left behind for others to tidy up after him is still there.
#16 by shinnew
2018-04-07 at 07:51
I don't have the motivation anymore to try to fix all his entries so I'll just leave the list of his accounts here if anyone wants to try.

u7601 u110264 u119875 u121623 u124477 u124919 u134342
#17 by eiesoldar
2018-04-14 at 21:13
Oh, btw, is that link account also the same guy? Looks like a (slightly) improved version, but still doing crappy edit attempts along with ok ones.Last modified on 2018-04-14 at 22:03
#18 by yorhel
2018-04-15 at 04:31
Not everyone who edits a lot is haddock...
#19 by beliar
2018-11-22 at 18:08
Is Tyciol back under yet another alt? I'm asking, because recent u156215 edits look exactly like what Tyciol used to do, for example adding characters whose names he doesn't know and calling them "Blue shirt guy" or "Red Hair boy".
I'll see if I'm able to clean up the mess the user has made, but if that's really Tyciol, he is evading a ban, which ironically is a bannable offence.
#20 by yorhel
2018-11-22 at 18:54
Was wondering about that as well. Banned and let's see what happens.
#21 by barfboy
2018-11-22 at 19:08
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#22 by cfk
2018-12-15 at 16:49
Yes it's me, I took a long time off (7 months by the look of it?) and ended up losing my password cookies during a switch from Vista to Lubuntu, ended up formatting everything and it had been so long I wasn't sure what account I was supposed to be using and just wanted to try a fresh start.

I'm not terios121, MFW actual noob is "slightly improved" compared to my 8 years of experience: =/

Beliar in fairness "Blue shirt guy" and "Red Hair boy" was how their dialogue was attributed in the playthrough video I watched, and as you point out in c77475.2 you don't learn his name. Not knowing that BSG was Damon was an oversight I can see was easily corrected with no harm done.

I like HQ's "lock them all and force him to use one which can be monitored" idea, even though I still don't agree with "troll editor" and "troll the database" descriptions. I remember that option being floated but can't remember how it turned out. If that is an option I hope it can be answered here so if I forget what I'm supposed to use that I can find it again.

The job I did on Imolicious wasn't that horrible considering it was done a day prior to the DL site edition when the thing was struggling in limbo and the only available info was a YT promo for it, was it?

Mòrì shàonǚ ~ zhēn nà de língrù shēngcún rìjì didn't even have the right title until the char profiles prompted the discovery it was a Chinese-first game.Last modified on 2018-12-15 at 16:51
#23 by harleyquin
2019-01-10 at 10:15
Already flagged up here: link

Aren't there supposed to be rules about multiple account creation to circumvent bans? Multiple warnings before, still persists with the same laziness.
#24 by december
2019-01-15 at 09:06
I was under the impression that this account had been blocked then intentionally unblocked to allow me to edit under it.

What exactly at link have I violated? There's no "don't be lazy" or "you must fill out at least ten fields" or similar. There is only 1 mandatory field for a character: name

If admins want other fields to be mandatory, go ahead and make them mandatory so that people can't make a profile without filling them out.

My actions build this database. Removing the correct info I add dismantles the database. Time spent complaining adds nothing, could easily be spent adding more.Last modified on 2019-01-15 at 09:07
#25 by harleyquin
2019-01-15 at 11:13
So being bone lazy and expecting others to clean up your substandard troll entries is contribution? You've learnt absolutely nothing from the seven plus years and countless clone accounts about how to do a decent character entry.

If you're not actually playing a retro game which isn't in the database and can't find information online worth adding, DON'T BOTHER.

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