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#601 by [deleted]
2019-06-19 at 22:52
Yeah, sorry for getting carried away.
#602 by ramaladni
2019-06-20 at 01:47
Uhh, right. I guess I'd rather not reply and move the issue along.

I think that if this feature is added, the team pages should be deleted. So, for example, you'd no longer have Arunaru, the "producer" but Arunaru as a "staff" member. Unless the plan would be to keep both?

At the same time, you'd have to specify releases if there is more than one translation available, and it might get a bit messy. Well, no more than when console ports are involved, I guess.

On that note, it'd be cool if release information could be hidden depending on the language. It'd help clean up certain pages like fault milestone one. Though I'm not sure how easy it'd be to implement.Last modified on 2019-06-20 at 01:47
#603 by being
2019-06-20 at 04:06
Translator (+Editor?) pages should definitely be a part of the database. The translation plays a huge, huge part of your experience with the VN in English. I don't think arguing about good or bad translators, or preferences in translation choices really has anything to do with it. It is simply a valuable thing to include in the database. There are some problems, though. Most notably those fan translation projects that use multiple translators, often starting with one who quits and then gets followed up by another who continues the translation. Some projects has apparently a varied set of translators... It gets really messy, and hard to verify who has even worked on it. Still, despite some potential problems with accuracy in some unusual cases, I think it can only be a positive feature. If someone actually wants to blacklist certain translators then that is their choice. People can easiliy blacklist writers they don't like, too. You can put a positive spin on this, by saying that the user has made a choice that gives them a more positive life experience, rather than reading it negatively by assuming they are going to harass the translator. This is obviously also true for using the feature to wishlist other works by a translator that user like. It's a positive thing for the users, not a negative thing. No matter how I look at it I think it is a good feature and one that I would really like to see.
#604 by [deleted]
2019-06-20 at 04:32
@602 The current method for adding new translations and other major updates by adding a whole new release entry and leaving the old ones instead of appending to the original release is a huge mess. It's been brought up multiple times before. I don't know what's a practical way to change it within the limitations of the database.

I think regarding producer entries vs. staff entries for translators, it should be something like:

(I say "translators" in all of my points below for simplicity, but please mentally replace that with "translators and editors.")

- For individual translators who released unofficial patches, they should be listed as both staff and a producer (publisher for the release). This matches how original games released by an individual creator are currently treated (they get a producer entry for the release but are also credited as staff for their specific roles).

- For translation groups who released unofficial patches, the group gets a producer entry listed as publisher on the releases and the individuals, if credited, get staff entries.

- For individual translators who worked on official translations, nothing changes about the publisher credit, but the translators are added as staff entries.

- For translation groups who worked on official translations but aren't part of the company, e.g. SUN-TEAM on r61354, my initial thought was there should be a staff entry for the group, as well as staff entries for individuals if they are credited, and the producer should be removed from the release unless it's credited as a producer on Steam, etc., but now that I think it through that seems unnecessarily complicated... So that's a potential sticking point.Last modified on 2019-06-20 at 04:33
#605 by eacil
2019-06-20 at 07:44
There is a way to sanitize the multi-updated multi-language steam releases. Instead of linking every language to the superseded releases, you keep only the language that was added. Like that, you have two releases for each language: one for when the language was added and one for the up-to-date release. Of course, you have to enforce the addition of a note
Added [language] support to rXXX.
Superseded by rXXX.
to not confuse the user into believing there were stand alone releases for [language].
I doubt those intermediate releases have any other purpose than offering data about new language support dates.Last modified on 2019-06-20 at 07:44
#606 by hin12
2019-06-21 at 06:41
Why are the NES and SNES (FC and SFC) shown as "Famicom" and "Super Nintendo"? Should probably be changed to "Famicom" and "Super Famicom".
#607 by dk382
2019-06-21 at 06:57
@602 That's more or less what I meant by "more UI customization options." I can see how staff lists could get out of hand when listing even just the key staff involved with official and fan translations of all languages, but this could be helped a lot by having better filtering options, in my opinion.
#608 by 707
2019-07-05 at 07:47
Can we add original title sub-field for song title (whether on the vocal field or make a new field)? Some VNs are way too unknown that I think the songs cannot be searched for with just a romanisation alone.Last modified on 2019-07-05 at 07:52
#609 by raccooncitizen
2019-07-05 at 10:37
Not sure if this was mentioned before, but is it possible to add a way to filter staff's work? Filtering a writer or a voice actor by removing what you read or put in your wishlist/blacklist (like any other tag).
#610 by eacil
2019-09-24 at 02:49
In the edit history, please add to the seiyuu section, links to the characters, not just the seiyuu.
Example: v19387.3.
#611 by yorhel
2019-09-24 at 08:27
@610: Done.
#612 by harleyquin
2019-09-25 at 03:01
For the length column, is it possible to ask users for justification whenever this field is changed?

Taking u157250 as an example, many changes to game length fields but sometimes with no justification. It's also apparent in previous edits the user has never played the games in question.
#613 by yorhel
2019-09-25 at 05:41
@612: The edit summary is supposed to be used to justify changes. If people don't do that when necessary, bring it up on their board. The edit summary is rather underused in general. :(
#614 by harleyquin
2019-09-25 at 05:49
Understood. Mainly a user-enforced norm rather than something imposed top down from the admins. Nothing users can do if others are too stubborn/evasive with their edits it seems.Last modified on 2019-09-25 at 07:01
#615 by yorhel
2019-09-25 at 06:10
That's nothing a technical solution is going to fix, either. Best approach is to revert edits if you have serious questions about them. Hopefully people will realize that writing a proper edit summary is *less* work in that case.
#616 by skorpiondeath
2019-09-28 at 13:42
@yorhel: sometime it happens to have VN covers what are better displayed in horizontal like for example ShiroKuro Iede Gyaru - Tomete Kuretara Nandemo Suru yo ♥. I don't know if it's a good idea or not but it would be nice to have a check or something to show the image with more space available horizontally than vertically.
#617 by tamakisakura
2019-10-01 at 00:47
Can we get the "finished" status separated into "partial clear" and "full clear"?
#618 by warfoki
2019-10-01 at 13:46
It's more of a possible bug report than a suggestion, but I think that something is broken with the character edit pages. If I click on edit and select the traits tab, it loads in... then VNDB immediately redirects me to the main homepage. The only way I can edit things is if I use the "go to the previous page" button on my browser, then it stays there. This happens both with Firefox and Opera so I don't think the problem is on my side...
#619 by skorpiondeath
2019-10-01 at 13:52
It's happening to me too warfoki
#620 by yorhel
2019-10-01 at 14:10
Interesting... and fixed.
#621 by eacil
2019-10-08 at 23:51
Wouldn't it be easy to allow reviews by using the forum template? You remove the time limit for editing the first post and put those threads under a review tab in the user and VN spaces?
Later on, you could add features like grades. A main grade to help sorting and key/value-grade for people who wants to grade elements like music/routes/graphics/etc.

I say that because I have opened a number of threads for the purpose of commenting VN but it's impossible to find them back if I don't check my VN list, as you can't filter your forum posts. And even if I could, I opened 112 threads and some "reviews" are lost in the middle of other people's threads.
#622 by lala7
2019-10-09 at 01:53
can you add VN recommendations by users like in MaL? link

Something like this will help users to find similar VNs that they want to play.
#623 by fuukanou
2019-10-09 at 01:56
#622, no need just use this: link
#624 by lala7
2019-10-09 at 02:11
#623 I see, thanks! it's much better than MaL
#625 by veileno
2019-10-10 at 22:46
#623 That is a great site however i do wish they would incorporate something similar to MAL which has the USERS reccomending and giving a paragraph long of why they are similar and one that enjoyed the current VN would enjoy the one being reccomended. I beleive this trumps a bot reccomending based on rating. But it's better than nothing. Thanks for sharing the site

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