#1451 by hansfranz77 2022-12-17 at 23:33 | < report >What I mean is to get an indicator of how these votes trend and in what timespan. A line graph on the "all votes" page, to be more specific. I do know these bars already, thanks :D The line graph I'm suggesting should incorporate all votes and expand on the small bar graph on the main page using the stats already there. Maybe there are sites or extensions out there already doing this, but I didn't find that yet.Last modified on 2022-12-17 at 23:42 |
#1452 by marvn 2022-12-18 at 00:46 | < report >#1451 this script produces such graphs. link |
#1453 by Ileca 2022-12-18 at 02:16 | < report >I figured you meant something else but you weren't clear at all (honestly, you never know when someone asks a question). What you want is basically the "rating over time" you can find on aniDB (the axes are rating, date, and number of votes with two curves rating and number of votes). Could be interesting indeed. Edit: what marvn shown you. I really need to refresh my tabs.Last modified on 2022-12-18 at 02:18 |
#1454 by hansfranz77 2022-12-18 at 04:08 | < report >#1452 that is pretty close to what I wanted, nice! Just one small issue I found. Using the default dark blue vndb skin and having a page full white pop up is not ideal to use. Is there a way to make it so the bg colour of that graph can be made to be less bright? Edit: Looks like there ar only two lines in the skript which need changing for this to be adjusted, line 26 and 142. I'm tinkering with it, atm. Nice to know it's that easy to customize! :)Last modified on 2022-12-18 at 04:24 |
#1455 by Yorhel 2022-12-18 at 10:52 | < report > Can we have an error on the VN page when the development status contradicts the data from the releases? I think the only scenario I can make into a proper error are when the releases suggest it's "Finished" when it's not. We still need to allow VN editing when there's no releases (yet).Can you also highlight "don't forget to list the source" in the VN's form? Such warnings have not worked out at all for screenshots, not sure more messages are going to change anyone's behavior.What we can do is move the source to a separate field and force editors to fill that out, even if that ends up selecting an "own description" option or something. |
#1456 by marvn 2022-12-18 at 18:47 | < report >#1454 glad to see it's working, there aren't inbuilt customizability options since I felt it looked bad if the background was changed but I guess you could change all the other colors as well. |
#1457 by Ileca 2022-12-18 at 22:31 | < report > I think the only scenario I can make into a proper error are when the releases suggest it's "Finished" when it's not. We still need to allow VN editing when there's no releases (yet). I didn't mean an error that will lock editing until it is solved, I meant a warning next to "status" saying that this data is in conflict with the state of the releases (aka an error) because there are no complete releases out yet even though the VN is marked as complete or it is still in development even though there is a complete release with a present or past date. I don't think there is a problem showing that even if it looks ugly because it is conflicting and wrong information so it benefits the user to know about it.Talking about forms erroring, please allow us to paste https://twitter.com/username into the twiter field. Currently, it will truncate the link and give us "https://twitter." (thanks to that I thought I met an exotic bug again...). Copying that kind of string from links happens all the time but thanks to that you have to paste it somewhere like in your browser's search field to be able to cut the right part. With Pixiv, you can't even paste the url at all. Well, that might be more effort than what it is worth but would be nice QoL. not sure more messages I am not asking for more message here, I am asking for a highlighting. Truth being that I only read these messages the first time I contributed and since then forgot that they even existed. However, red highlighting is something I still notice. We still have wrong screenshots being uploaded but do we have the same amount, more or less than before?The part I do want to add is not to warn, it is just a trick to help us not have to write [From [url=LINK]SOURCE[/url]] all the time. It is like Package Edition/Download Edition and the Japanese equivalent, I always go find that on an existing release instead of writing it myself because it's such a chore. You said once that you write bbcode faster than clicking on a UI. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU as you can't possibly write all that stuff faster than a click even if you have to move your hand to the mouse (which you still need to use to copy-paste the url). I know because I have a lot of training. That being said, your solution sounds better. Yes, once you add a description, being forced to source it even if it's to click on "I made it myself" sounds great if you have access to templates like [From SOURCE], [From the official website], [Translated from the official website]. |
#1458 by Yorhel 2022-12-19 at 15:59 | < report > I meant a warning next to "status" saying that this data is in conflict with the state of the releases Done.Also added a big warning to VN pages when it doesn't have any releases. please allow us to paste https://twitter.com/username into the twiter field I wrote the releases external links editor with the intention to use it for other entries as well, but never ended up doing that because most other entries just don't support many link types. Maybe I should change that...You said once that you write bbcode faster than clicking on a UI. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU Weeeellll, I'm sure my statement might have been influenced by how ridiculously annoying it is to build or integrate a proper BBCode editor. :) |
#1459 by Mrkew 2022-12-19 at 16:14 | < report >I see twitter field which means I have to again ask for twitter field for producers instead of relying on wikidata. |
#1460 by Ezezin 2022-12-19 at 21:16 | < report >It pains me so much when I have to remove links and sources from releases or links that don't work anymore. Would it be possible to have an additional tab in VN pages called "references" (below the screenshots tab) where we can put every other url not found on releases, the VN description, deleted websites that were previously removed and screenshots of in-game stuff? This could be a free form text field, similar to the description field. |
#1461 by Ileca 2022-12-20 at 03:41 | < report >Noob mistake. You are not supposed to remove dead links, you must replace them with archived versions. Two of your links still work. That being said, I am not sure the note field is the right place for that content (review, source code, yutube video). It should be on the forum. |
#1462 by Ezezin 2022-12-20 at 09:43 | < report >Of course, I know that. I meant links which doesn't have an archived version (like in v21032.7). I always see those links being removed from sources and releases. And I know we can put and additional references in the edit summary or create a thread, but I think a new tab which lists all references in a single place can be beneficial for editors looking for more information and regulars who want to know where the information came from.Last modified on 2022-12-20 at 09:44 |
#1463 by Ileca 2022-12-20 at 10:52 | < report >I was specifically talking about your edit you used to illustrate your suggestion and where you removed two valid links. Not sure a page for that would be useful. We could let dead links alone and just append " (dead)" to them. What could be great about a "link hub" would be the ability to add all kind of outside links like reviews, videos, interviews, etc. everything related to a VN/producer/staff. You would propose a link, a title (automatically fetched by default) and a short comment. It would end up being a dump but a dump full of surprises. |
#1464 by Ezezin 2022-12-20 at 11:18 | < report > I was specifically talking about your edit hmm.. Maybe the source code, since that page is related to the release itself. I'm going to restore that link.However I don't think reviews and Youtube videos should be in releases notes. Not sure a page for that would be useful. I'm not talking about a new page. I'm talking about a new tab or section in VN entries, like screenshots or user stats.What could be great about a "link hub" I guess that could work too. And besides references, people could add those videos with translations that they seem to love, links to minor patches, fixes or mods which can't be added as a new release, and guides or walkthroughs.But I still think it should be in the VN/producer/staff entries instead of being in a new page.Last modified on 2022-12-20 at 11:18 |
#1465 by Ileca 2022-12-20 at 11:51 | < report > However I don't think reviews and Youtube videos should be in releases notes. Dude, this is exactly what I said... that's why I wasn't criticizing your idea when I said that kind of info should be on the forum instead.videos with translations that they seem to love, links to minor patches, fixes or mods which can't be added as a new release, and guides or walkthroughs Yes, there are tons of stuff related to VN that could benefit from being added here, in the form of a free list. Like, we could benefit just from adding external reviews (though they should be appended to the current review section), and walkthroughs. Just this last one, we have frequent requests on the forum.Minor patches, tho, is release specific. Not that I don't want them, quite the contrary as it's annoying to have to check websites every time you install something. Prob most stuff could be added independently instead of a free list.Last modified on 2022-12-20 at 12:22 |
#1466 by db-ident-1 2022-12-21 at 08:31 | < report >Is it possible to have a scripted move of links in notes to releases? Or even better, warn the editor if the notes section of a release contains recognized links. For example, r70119 contains Available at [url=https://store-jp.nintendo.com/list/software/70010000019863.html]Nintendo Store Japan[/url].Which is best converted to an external link to the JP eShop. Queries showed that there are about 70 links to the JP eShop, and about 10 to the US eShop, sometimes the links are only placed in notes and not in the external links section. |
#1467 by fuck 2022-12-29 at 22:33 | < report >Cherokee language should be added. link |
#1468 by otakudoug 2023-01-02 at 04:26 | < report >This may have been suggested before, but what about the ability to rate developers. Mostly to aid in filtering VNs. |
#1469 by marvn 2023-01-02 at 23:21 | < report >Maybe I'm missing something, but is there a way to use the tags and traits feature to highlight tags but only if they're displayed by the current spoiler setting? Like the previous method which was just to use CSS like this:a[href$='g92'], In addition, it seems with the tags and traits feature you can't see the spoiler level of a highlighted tag?Last modified on 2023-01-02 at 23:23 |
#1470 by ff80c38 2023-01-03 at 08:49 | < report >Not sure what you mean. With that CSS the tags are highlighted but still behave like before - they are hidden if the spoiler settings are strict and shown if they are relaxed. Getting the spoiler level or any toggleable category of a tag/trait is done via classes. Have a look in the source code and you will see that 'tagspl0', 'tagspl1' and 'tagspl2' respectively refer to the spoiler levels 'no spoiler', 'minor spoiler' and 'major spoiler'. My CSS is barely existent but selecting tags based on classes can e.g. be done via: .tagspl0 a[href$='g92'] {font-weight: bold;} This will highlight the tag only if it's no spoiler at all. I haven't looked into if it can be done dynamically and cumulatively, so I can't say anything about that. |
#1471 by marvn 2023-01-03 at 17:20 | < report >Yes, I'm wondering if what that css does can be replicated with the new feature. Since with the new tags and traits feature if you try highlighting tags it will forcefully drag them out regardless of spoiler setting. I like how the new feature includes sub tags, would like to use that. |
#1472 by ff80c38 2023-01-03 at 21:35 | < report >Oh, my bad, I completely missed that new feature and thought you were still talking about the CSS approach. It does look lovely and works well for its purpose as far as I quickly tested. But you are sadly correct, the original spoiler classes in the html page are overwritten to make the tags behave like the set spoiler level. It's a clean solution, but I doubt it's possible to revert the original spoiler levels without getting them from an external source - with the current implementation. That being said, thank you Yorhel for implementing the feature on a user level instead of changing the behaviour of certain tags sitewide. And if you should be feeling bored some lonely afternoon, a new option with "Highlight" and/or user defined colours per rule would be greatly appreciated. |
#1473 by mikiru 2023-01-04 at 13:11 | < report >Is it possible to add sorting by developer to the list? |
#1474 by Yorhel 2023-01-04 at 13:37 | < report > is there a way to use the tags and traits feature to highlight tags but only if they're displayed by the current spoiler setting? Currently nope, but perhaps I can separate the highlighting option from the spoiler overrides.In addition, it seems with the tags and traits feature you can't see the spoiler level of a highlighted tag? My intention was that the spoiler indicator would still be visible even if you've overruled it, but seems that didn't work. Fixed that for tags now, will check traits in a bit.(I hope I didn't break anything else in the process, this tag overruling logic is stupidly complicated and hard to get right...) EDIT: Also fixed the spoiler indicator for traits now. On a related note, I see some people have "also apply to child tags" unchecked on big meta-tags; since meta tags don't show up on VN pages, that probably doesn't do what they had intended. I'll see if I can "inject" those tags into the page anyway in such cases. Is it possible to add sorting by developer to the list? No.(I mean, everything is possible, but that's going to be both slow, painful and weird with multiple devs, so I'd really rather not)Last modified on 2023-01-04 at 15:27 |
#1475 by marvn 2023-01-05 at 09:06 | < report >ooh thanks for the update, would love to see the highlighting option separated out. |