Review of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
|Subject||Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|
|By||Vote: 4.5hansfranz77 on 2021-01-13 last updated on 2021-01-14|
|Review||FYI: This is a review for the 4 question arcs of higurashi, steam version chapters 1 - 4 only.|
This thing is the furthest form "well written" i might have ever played or even seen. (I need to think about that once i'm finally done with all of higurashi). I honestly have no idea how this series got the great standing it has these days in the west. But despite its age this is "modern writing" as in plot driven writing of the worst possible kind.
There is nothing too stupid or over the top to pull out of left field, in favor of the all encompassing "plot" for this thing. With no setup, believability or rationallity on any end. Even if the plot involves the protag going utterly mental and killing somone with a baseball bat - just to convinietly end up in a paralell world, in which the whole thing doesn't matter anymore. Its like a child making shit up on a playground so he doesn't have to lose, or in this case the mc either getting killed or ending in jail for his insanity. The childish story part is very fitting, considering the original character art.
Nobody (not even the characters that are supposeldy adults or polieceworkers) in this game seems to be able to think for even a second like a normal logical human being. Very rarely you get some scenes where they seem to try it (mostly from rena) and the game acts like its impossible anyways. To force the story so far off the rails again you start to wonder how this got ever put into a vn to begin with? Let alone something as highly rated as this one apparently is?!
As an example in chapter 3 with a possible adoption of satoko by the family of the protag (which would've solved the whole chapter right form very early on.) As a result it's shortly after the first chapter you start to notice the writers either having no idea what they're doing and not bothering explaining anything, or just not giving a fuck at all. Whatever it may be, it does not help with suspesion of disbelief. Especially if you have a kinetic novel structure and one of the most braindead, protags i have ever seen.
Keiichi might even be mentally and emotionally deficient, to the point where you sometimes wonder if he had been suffering form stockholm syndrome (which btw the game gives no indication to, what so ever at the point in the story he acts this way) and states "how he hurt his best friend a (known serial killer by him at that point) so bad, (by not giving her a damn doll as a persent), he might as well killed the ones she tortured and butcherd himself." It's just crazy. Maybe he even is insane at the very end? It would fit this transparent bullshit wirting like a glove!
Thus you can only watch this ideotic spectacle unfold as you are unable to do anything about it.
Hell some hentai have protags or characters that are more capable to think about their- and more importantly the actions of others, compared to this guy. I only wait for the moment chapter 4 pulls some rape or pedo shit for real this time...
After being finished with chapter 4. Granted this did not happen yet but the point still stands, because this is just the type of easy "shock value writing" the whole game is written as). It would just fit in with all the insane nonsense and if they try to check boxes those just might be the last things that are "missing" still to get the highest "shocking your audience score". This is the kind of crap "plot driven writing" those hacks pull out of their asses, all the time. If they follow through on upping the ante, they would at least be one time consistent. What they're doing is as transparent as water after a few hours, shockingly so.
I wasted so much time on this thing hoping it would finally get better and aside form some parts in chapter 3 with satoko's story which were greatly undermined, by her aparently being able to get alc and cigs, by herself in the convinience store god knows how far away - on a bike. And of course coach and keiichi acting like the bruises all over her body are nothing they could act upon. The most hilarious thing about that one was the later revelation of coach being the village doctor himself. Give me a damn break game!
There is nothing here! This whole game and very likely the next parts as well live(s) and die(s) on the stupidity, irrationality and craziness of everyone in this world - especially the main protagonist, keiichi. There is no explanation given how a boy, that is suposeldy only there a month, a bit over a month, a bit over two months... (depending how the game feels like it. No joke i saw three different indications for that given by him in chapter 3 alone) can be this off the rocker already. Let alone acts like he somehow was not fully developed in the brain an emotional department.
Once you realize, that everbody in this game is just doing whatever to "shock" and "surprise" you and there is no sane individual you can anchor yourself with. You do not give a fuck anymore what is happening, or will hapen.
Tldr: This is all a big clown show and not worth the time it's asking from you and which seems to have the premise of shock your audience! With every cheap trick you could possibly imagine. There is no consistincy to the action, the characters or even the plot itself. Its all random shit just happening all the time. I'ts a broken world and game filled with broken wirting at that point. Nothing in it makes any damn sense. A Story is predicated on it being able to immerse the player / reader into its world. This thing is not able to do so after a few hours, anymore. Because everything can or can not happen all the time, with no consistency to any of it, let alone rhyme or reason as to why it happens or don't.[i/]
(I can not wait until the very end and they might pull the "protag was crazy all along!11 It was all in his head! Got ya! "twist" . This seems to be exactly the kind of "writing talent" those dudes are having.
Its a farce!
I really start to wonder if it's on purpose that i see this one recommended as an entry level vn all the time? From what i saw in over 100 hours as of now this could explain the rating here and all around the net.)
|#1 by ninius|
2021-01-13 at 23:26
|< report >Lmao there's a reason they're called QUESTION arcs...|
|#2 by vario|
2021-01-14 at 04:56
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with a possible adoption of satoko by the family of the protag (which would've solved the whole chapter right form very early on
Have you actually read the game? They mentioned this. And this is definitely not something "easy" in real life lol.
And I'm not sure that you realize how story-driven (but actually even moege, etc.) games work. Because there won't be anything to tell if characters won't make mistakes and won't lose a few times. It's a pretty basic structure for a story.
|#3 by hansfranz77|
2021-01-14 at 22:11
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Lmao there's a reason they're called QUESTION arcs...
That is not an excuse for stealing over a hundred hours of my time and making me think why in the fuck i even tried. I know this is more a rant, but i be damned if i do not question something taking this much of my time and not giving anything back in return. It's kind of baffling to me i seem to be the first one to come up with antyhing negative on this board and i really want to have a discussion as to why that might be? That is why i worded this in the way i did. And it seems i already got some that seem to be personally attacked over critiziing "their favorite" franchise.
Have you actually read the game?link
Sadly i'm not talking out of my ass. I did waste this time and i'm not willing to accept wasting 70 or even 100 hours more for a "payoff" that might eventually happen, but i do not even care about it anymore already. Becasue this game is not even interested in keeping to it's own damn rules, let alone even establishing any hard rules at all. While still setting itself into the past in the real world and thus you should be able to hold it to IRL rules. And the writing seems to only have the intention to pull something again to "surprise" the player down the road.
They mentioned this. And this is definitely not something "easy" in real life lol.I might as well throw this one back at you. When was the last time you read this thing?
They didn't which is exactly the problem. Read again, honestly.
Rena suggests it to keiichi angrly and he stops thinking rationally at this point already. Instead he thinks about kidnapping and hiding her in his room. He didn't even ask his parents in the first place and the game never gave a reason to begin with besides "they would refuse anyway" which i highly doubt, given the way his mother and father care for- and act around him, it's just hand waved away and that is all.
But this wasn't even the end of it, was it? No it was the start of this whole storyline, ending in him killing her uncle in cold blood and somehow switching to an alternate world / timeline (whatever) where none of that never happend. Amazing story.
So the next one would be.
The village doctor witnessing this mistreatment and willfully ignoring it, right? There is no excuse for this behaivor, even if the process itself might've taken years. They did not even start it. No they did exactly the opposite.
This is the mo of this game it forces so much unbelivable shit out of left field just to play with the players themselvs. There is nothing in the plot itself worth reading in over 100 hours and that is what i rate, i do not give a fuck about the twists they pull out of their asses all the time, because they want to play with their audience and honestly come off making fun of the ones even reading this shitshow in the extra's to begin with. It has no interest to do something with the characterts, setting and even world itself, which would make logical sense and stay coherent in itself.Last modified on 2021-01-14 at 23:05
|#4 by askmeaboutloom|
2021-01-14 at 23:37
|< report >Most things you are confused about get explained in the answer arcs, that's why this is called "question" arcs. You are not supposed to understand what the fuck is going on. |
But if you don't like the structure of the game it's fine, I thought it dragged a bit sometimes but it's a cool series
|#5 by ninius|
2021-01-15 at 00:29
|< report >#3, well it's your loss if you can't enjoy a good story ;-) Higurashi franchise is very good and praised for a reason, you're the one who's missing out, not us. The question arcs aren't meant to be read without reading the answer arcs afterwards, because it's written on purpose to not make sense.|
|#6 by asaki|
2021-01-15 at 01:35
|< report >Go watch the anime then (Not the Gou one, the one ftom 2006 version), especially at episode 16 to 26. Of course you should watch Kai anime as well in which it'll consist 24 episodes. That way at least you'll spent 17 and half hours (Or it can be slightly faster) instead of hundred hours.|
I would say that you should write the review after you finished with Matsuribayashi (Higurashi very last arc), but it's already too late there. At least you didn't judge Higurashi based on gameplay and graphic as well, which to say it would be the most questionable decision.
|#7 by hansfranz77|
2021-01-15 at 01:43
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But if you don't like the structure of the game it's fine, I thought it dragged a bit sometimesThis might be one of the most generous things you can say about it, yeah. But i think i could confidently argue over 50% if not even 75% of the text should've been cut and this really were in desperate need of an editior nearly two decades ago. It is just so much flashbacks, repeating itself and shitty thought bubble fluff. It's such a slog to read through it all and for what exactly?
Higurashi franchise is very good and praised for a reason, you're the one who's missing out, not us.
And here we are. Go ahead and list your reasons, you can spoil the hell out of all of it.
Because as it stands i'm very unlikely to pick chapter 6 through 8 up again. (i even forced myself through 5 at the very end of last year, but that is it as of now.)
Go watch the anime then (Not the Gou one, the one ftom 2006 version), especially at episode 16 to 26. Of course you should watch Kai anime as well in which it'll consist 24 episodes.
Sure i'm supposed to waste not just 200 hours or something insane like that on this abysmally written dreck, but also should i reward those that tricked me into wasting this time with another 100 hours on top of it!
I really hope this was a joke reply, becasue i can not take this crap seriously, sorry.
At least you didn't judge Higurashi based on gameplay and graphic as well, which to say it would be the most questionable decision.I tell you a little secret. 07th-mod exists. So even with switch remake graphics and voice acting like i tried for the free first episode on steam. This thing does not get any better.
Just to be sure we are all talking about the mangagamer english version here, right?
I do not intent on another "learn japanese" bs circlejerk here.Last modified on 2021-01-15 at 02:11
|#8 by asaki|
2021-01-15 at 02:12
|< report >Well I'm serious on my reply there in regard of watching the anime. Also I know that there's graphic mod, and the reason I bring graphic because there's another review that list the graphic as con.|
PS - I understand that you want to discuss it, although if you said that you just read question arc sorry to say that you're too early here. So just watch the anime if you still want to go through with this, or just drop it completely and forget this.
Edit - Forgot to say that yes I really mean Mangagamer version, and no I won't suggest you to learn Japanese there because it's just irresponsible remark.Last modified on 2021-01-15 at 05:25