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Review of Muv-Luv Alternative

SubjectMuv-Luv Alternative
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Vote: 8.5
htc89234 on 2023-03-09
ReviewMLA has some absurdly high highs. There were multiple points where I genuinely thought I was reading what might be perhaps the best thing I've ever read. There were points I couldn't stop reading and nearly ruined my work routine by pulling a near all-nighter reading 12 straight hours of MLA. There were points I thought I'd lower everything else in my list by 1 point because MLA was just hitting me that hard.

Unfortunately: MuvLuv Alt also has some really stupid lows. Plain idiocy from some characters, infodumps that aren't that relevant or interesting to world building, an 18+ scene that is unwarranted, Takeru being way too dense over just about anything, the dialogue feeling like a complete slog at times, trying to make me care about some random characters that don't even have names, the list is large. There are other minor complaints, more like nitpicks - Much like MLU, MLA has forced sections where I can't even choose the pace I want to read. The game becomes borderline anime and I just sit there and read. It happens too often in the latter half. Also, this is essentially a kinectic novel; there are so few choices I wonder why they're even there anyway, because not only are they few, but they're also essentially meaningless.

MLA can definitely pack some punches, but it can also fall flat and be predictable at times. Worse, the game feels very averse to "show not tell"; the game too often does a "show, then have another character imply it in dialogue, and then let's write 40 textboxes of our protagonist piecing it out to himself through flashbacks and monologue". Maybe it makes him more relatable and human, but to me, it just made the game start becoming a slog and kind of takes away the fun of the reader in these moments. The infodumps can at times be useful (the BETA comes to mind) and at times worthless (the TSF infodump is worthless and 99% of them don't even ever show up in the screen), to the point of even turning me off from reading entirely and making me take hours to pass what were essentially just a half-hour of reading at best.

While MLA's writing makes it clear that MLA was always in the works, and even elevates some scenes from the original ML giving a few stellar moments, the main character motivation and drive feels a bit off during the beginning of the game, especially if you come into it hot off MLU. While they make sense in the narrative, it didn't quite feel like it was built up properly in the prequels (probably what, 50 textboxes in MLU total allude to the two main driving factors of the first few chapters?), and it leaves you feeling a bit disjointed - it makes sense, but simultaneously you kinda wish that it was shown more, especially with how much exposition the VN already tends to have to begin with.

Speaking of the writing, Takeru eventually grows into a nicer character, but reading the same peptalk about guiding light and finding his pillar to support himself in and so on so forth is a scene that happened far too often in the already-lengthy VN and kind of diminishes the emotional impact of his growth. It's definitely one of those things that you look back and appreciate it as good writing because it was done in a way that it progressed naturally, but it can feel infuriating to a reader in the moment.

Last but not least, that one 18+ scene was completely unwarranted and serves no particular purpose in the game other than blatant shock value or cramming an artists or developers fetish into the game, and no amount of heartbeat SFX or sad songs can make me think otherwise. I'm sorry, age.

If I were to speak of my experiences with ML and MLA as a graph, imagine the following: My enjoyment in the moment of ML felt pretty much a constant 8 throughout. MLA varies between a 10 and a 6 (though admittedly, it stays in the upper boundary for most of it).

I genuinely love MLA and it deserves its status as a Kamige. Pieces of it do make it one of the most incredible stories I've read. I love the story, the plot, the secondary characters, the setting, the worldbuilding. I loved the ending too, even though I can admit that this in particular might actually prove to be the biggest hit or miss point for most people.

However, more than a few times the game made me dislike the way the story was being told. I'm sure, with time, I'll remember it even more fondly than I do now - and trust me, I am rather fond of it. The game got pretty close to making me cry several times. But I don't think I'll ever reread it in full. I, personally, feel there are two types of games: those that feel better when you're playing them and worse in retrospect, and those that feel worse in the moment, but greater in your memory. MLA to me is of the latter form. Perhaps, had I given a review a couple months after I finished instead of a couple of days, I'd give it a 10. At the end though, I can confidently say along with everyone else:

MLA is, regardless of your preferences, a must-read VN.
2 points
#1 by plisken
2023-03-09 at 22:25
< report >Clarification: the choices do affect things ... slightly. They affect a scene before the Battle of Sadogashima, and a scene at the end. Also, your save data from Extra/Unlimited carries over, and it alters things a little bit (one place that comes to mind is during the Comprehensive Combat Skill Evaluation. The outcome will change depending on the choices Takeru made during Unlimited) Otherwise yes, it's pretty much a kinetic novel.

As far as the "unnecessary" 18+ scene: a lot of people completely misunderstand why this was there. Basically, the entire trilogy of Muv-Luv is essentially a deconstruction of typical VN/anime tropes. Most of the stock-standard ones were set up in Extra, and then Alternative knocks them all down. One of these deconstructed tropes seen in MLA is the typical "tentacle" scene. In most media such scenes are meant to be titillating and little more than wank material. In Alternative, it was grotesque, horrifying, and most of all, heartbreaking.

If it disturbed and disgusted you, then it did its job. That was the entire point.

Edit: For the squeamish, just read the all-ages version. It replaces that scene with a much milder one.Last modified on 2023-03-09 at 22:33
#2 by htc89234
2023-03-09 at 22:42
< report >#1

I do know the choices change that (and I did find the alternative CCSE fluff rather nice to find out) but since they're overall irrelevant to the larger main plot itself I dismissed it.

As for the 18+ scene, I wouldn't say it neither disturbed nor disgutesd me, but it was also neither heartbreaking. Honestly, getting that thrown in my face with the soundtrack and the heartbeat SFX out of nowhere was just... I dunno. It felt so thoroughly out of left field that to me as a reader it felt more "humorous" as in "too absurd to be taken seriously"; and the only impact it left on me was that it was completely unwarranted/needless. Even though I do understand "why" it's there since MLA is to be a deconstruction of tropes I still feel that it being there does not improve or add anything to the VN in that regard (the general plot does a good enough job of that already without needing to shove that type of thing in my face, I'd reckon).Last modified on 2023-03-09 at 22:43
#3 by anonymous
2023-03-10 at 10:30
< report >I don't really understand the ending being the greatest hit or miss argument, within such a long narrative, but you do point the two main things that stop MLA from being a masterpiece.

The repetition, Takeru and both combined. I would agree to an 8 bordering on 9 score.

If you want my opinion, you don't need this defensive approach, that your entire review exudes. MLA is both loved and hated. If you like, it praise the features that resonate with you.
If you don't like something, bash it (within reason).

There's always someone who doesn't agree with you. You don't need to convince them. You just "need" to give substance to your position.